[-V-]

This is the portrait of a man who did, at least at one time, have integrity. But he sold that a few years ago to get in the good graces of the Republican powers that be in exchange for their endorsment for a 2008 Presidential bid.

But, more than anything else, it is his own recent endorsement of Bush's highly unpopular new Iraq plan that positions him for another failed crack at the White House. In a glaring admission of regressive logic last week he spelled out that while he approved of sending 20,000 more troops to Iraq, when asked about the standard procedure of Americans' paying higher taxes as their patriotic duty to finance an American war he said,

"I would ask them to make other sacrifices, but I'm not sure I would want to raise their taxes just because we're in a war''

Sure. Ask 20,000 more families to sacrifice their children, but raise taxes - no way. Let future generations pay the 1/4 million dollar per MINUTE Iraq tab he and his new buddy Bush would have us extending into the years ahead.

Presidential candidate? NEXT!

[NeoCon Newbie]

This is the portrait of a man who did, at least at one time, have integrity. But he sold that a few years ago to get in the good graces of the Republican powers that be in exchange for their endorsment for a 2008 Presidential bid.

But, more than anything else, it is his own recent endorsement of Bush's highly unpopular new Iraq plan that positions him for another failed crack at the White House. In a glaring admission of regressive logic last week he spelled out that while he approved of sending 20,000 more troops to Iraq, when asked about the standard procedure of Americans' paying higher taxes as their patriotic duty to finance an American war he said,



Sure. Ask 20,000 more families to sacrifice their children, but raise taxes - no way. Let future generations pay the 1/4 million dollar per MINUTE Iraq tab he and his new buddy Bush would have us extending into the years ahead.

Presidential candidate? NEXT!John Mccain is republican in name only he is a liberal at heart.

[Lionhearted]

John Mccain is republican in name only he is a liberal at heart.
That is without a doubt, well this may be something of a stretch, the dumbest thing you have ever said Newbie.

Is it possible Newbie is actually a bot programmed by some sort of regressive savant?

[MAGI]

John Mccain is republican in name only he is a liberal at heart.

NeoCon Newbie,
Please tell us your definition of liberal.
:confused:

[Jennifer_SFBA]

Identifying as an ULTRA Conservative Republican Conservative, I suppose everyone except people who are like Hitler and his followers were, are to the left of NeoCon Newbie and therefore, to NeoCon Newbie, are liberal. Would the Third Reich have been your thing, appealed to you, NeoCon Newbie? Maybe that accounts for why you dislike FDR. You would have loved Hitler's government's position on gay, lesbian, bisexual and transgender people, though many men who were in Hitler's SS were gay themselves and used being against gay people as a cover. Some in Hitler's SS practiced full blown Satanism too as an official military unit.

[cat's meow]

McCain is an idiot...

He supports the war and the decisions of the administration without question and then panders in the last two days saying "Rumsfeld was the worst SOD ever"...this guy is a fool.

[Jumpin Jupiter]

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,259282,00.html

As he digs himself out of a hole:eek:

[NeoCon Newbie]

Identifying as an ULTRA Conservative Republican Conservative, I suppose everyone except people who are like Hitler and his followers were, are to the left of NeoCon Newbie and therefore, to NeoCon Newbie, are liberal. Would the Third Reich have been your thing, appealed to you, NeoCon Newbie? Maybe that accounts for why you dislike FDR. You would have loved Hitler's government's position on gay, lesbian, bisexual and transgender people, though many men who were in Hitler's SS were gay themselves and used being against gay people as a cover. Some in Hitler's SS practiced full blown Satanism too as an official military unit.First of all if you are going to prove me wrong atleast get your facts straight hitler was a lefty he was a Nazi Nazi stand for National Socialistparty socialism is to the left Hitler was a lefty just like stalin all facists are to the left they are into big government and want to take the rights away from there citizens like the liberals in this country.

[FDRfollower]

First of all if you are going to prove me wrong atleast get your facts straight hitler was a lefty he was a Nazi Nazi stand for National Socialistparty socialism is to the left Hitler was a lefty just like stalin all facists are to the left they are into big government and want to take the rights away from there citizens like the liberals in this country.

I wanted to give you some bad karma, but, I have to give it to someone else first, and that hasn't appeared yet.

This takes the cake for utter stupidity, lack of any knowledge of history, misuse of a name, and overall retardedness.

Tell me, Mr. Retarded Neocon, who were the first organizations that the Nazi's outlawed and threw into the concentration camps?

I'll give you a hint, one of them starts with an S.

[Jane of Arc]

You know, FDR ... Newbie-Do-Be-Do is some sad kid with a dysfunctional family, no gilrfriend, very minimal education and a lot pent up, misguided anger. And in between killing things on computer games and going to porn sites he stops in at POL and attempts to unleash some of his disturbed misconceptions of the world he probably learned from some hostile family member.

I always taunt him to enlist and put his money where his mouth is, but of course that will never happen. He's terrified. Can you imagine being that young and that lost, angry and confused? I actually feel bad for the kid.

[-V-]

fdrfollower & jane of arc
===================

oh knights of the light
i pray thee have mercy on our misguided brother on the right
shine ye beacons of truth and love
and lay down thy swords
for when thou dost bring more darkness to the darkness
we all lose our way...

[FDRfollower]

Thanks for the candle ~V~.

I was very tired, so I just reacted like a barbarian. Its likely, that he already gets abused and called names at home and at school, and is that kid who gets shuffled through the "education" system without him actually knowing anything. Much less the basics of how to write in the English language.

I guess some good natured taunting wouldn't hurt from here on out. :jumpjoy:

[Thelonious]

McCain keeps accidentally telling the truth.... like Rumsfeld was the worst SOD ever.
I really don't like age discrimination but I think McCain is no longer up to the job. His mind just no longer holds all the info he needs quick at hand to make the clever responses a candidate needs.
He was always full of contradictions, but right now he needs massive SUAVE and SAVVY charismatic talk to get him through and it's just not there for him.

[Thelonious]

Mr NeoCon Newbie has every right to his opinions. If he is factually incorrect I will correct him where I can (that is when I am not ignorant :)) It might be better to have a more erudite conservative here... but we don't.

[FDRfollower]

Ha ha!! McCains campaign ad's are appearing on the bottom of the screen in the religeon room.

Surrender is NOT AN OPTION!!

Who's on his campaign staff, the Borg? :pick:

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In response to an audience question about military action against Iran, the Arizona senator briefly sang the chorus of the surf-rocker classic "Barbara Ann."

"That old, eh, that old Beach Boys song, Bomb Iran," he said in jest Wednesday, chuckling with the crowd. Then, he softly sang to the melody: "Bomb, bomb, bomb, bomb, anyway, ah ..." The audience responded with more laughter.

Some things you don't joke about (macaca, nappy headed ho) and dropping bombs is one of them. I'd insert the name or lyrics from another Beach Boys tune here that would describe his campaign or chances of winning but I can't think of something off hand (haus could probably come up with one).

The old fool is clearly positioning himself as another "war President" rather than a diplomatic world leader.

[JamesP]

10 things you should know about John McCain (but probably don't):

1. John McCain voted against establishing a national holiday in honor of Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr. Now he says his position has "evolved," yet he's continued to oppose key civil rights laws.

2. According to Bloomberg News, McCain is more hawkish than Bush on Iraq, Russia and China. Conservative columnist Pat Buchanan says McCain "will make Cheney look like Gandhi."

3. His reputation is built on his opposition to torture, but McCain voted against a bill to ban waterboarding, and then applauded President Bush for vetoing that ban.

4. McCain opposes a woman's right to choose. He said, "I do not support Roe versus Wade. It should be overturned."


5. The Children's Defense Fund rated McCain as the worst senator in Congress for children. He voted against the children's health care bill last year, then defended Bush's veto of the bill.


6. He's one of the richest people in a Senate filled with millionaires. The Associated Press reports he and his wife own at least eight homes! Yet McCain says the solution to the housing crisis is for people facing foreclosure to get a "second job" and skip their vacations.

7. Many of McCain's fellow Republican senators say he's too reckless to be commander in chief. One Republican senator said: "The thought of his being president sends a cold chill down my spine. He's erratic. He's hotheaded. He loses his temper and he worries me."


8. McCain talks a lot about taking on special interests, but his campaign manager and top advisers are actually lobbyists. The government watchdog group Public Citizen says McCain has 59 lobbyists raising money for his campaign, more than any of the other presidential candidates.

9. McCain has sought closer ties to the extreme religious right in recent years. The pastor McCain calls his "spiritual guide," Rod Parsley, believes America's founding mission is to destroy Islam, which he calls a "false religion." McCain sought the political support of right-wing preacher John Hagee, who believes Hurricane Katrina was God's punishment for gay rights and called the Catholic Church "the Antichrist" and a "false cult."


10. He positions himself as pro-environment, but he scored a 0—yes, zero—from the League of Conservation Voters last year.

[Jennifer_SFBA]

Which flips more, McCain or Aunt Jamima pancakes in about the same time too?

Strait talk McCain on Gay Marriage???

http://bravenewfilms.org/blog/43-john-mccain-flip-flops-on-gay-marriage

[lynchbug]

IMHO, aren't we really talking about "marriage for everyone?" I mean, a rose by anyother name... but, marriage for everyone is easily understandable, and is not "loaded". Just a little spin doctoring that I think would work more in the favor of the progressive agenda we work to advance here. So, um, Marriage for Everyone must have been what McCain waffled on. (Anyhow, it will not be long until they have to introduce the guy to his campaign aides every morning...not to be ageist, but I think a lot of what we are seeing is early-stage mild cognitive impairment.)

[Jennifer_SFBA]

Well, Lnychbug, McCain is old, 71, so it could be we're seeing the onset of dementia in him. He'll be 72 in August. He was direct in his answer that was 11 minutes after his first answer in the video clip though.

[lynchbug]

He did seem a little baffled though in the third answer, like he either didn't grasp it, or was working his way past some aphasia in order to speak an answer. President Reagan would us a lengthened utterance of the word well while he got control over his thoughts, or until he found a way to connect to his vocal apparatus. The kinds of conversational whiskers that are the covering marks of an elder person with some impairments of these kinds, IMHO. But that third answer in the clip, he really did seem baffled. He basically started an answer with a motley collection of pronouns, and then, blankness. Very neurological. I don't listen to McCain much, as I care not for his beliefs or his rhetoric, but, there seems to be some medical problem affecting his mentation that could become suddenly clinical during his term, should the absolute worst happen, that is, he garners the Presidency.
He answered, and then drifted into confusion. Alot like a football player who graps a pass, has solid control, and then suddenly is juggling the thing and maybe then loses possesion? That arises out of muscle fatigue in the player, the same kind of near fumble, verbally, in a man of his age, well that points to plaques on the brain.

I suppose though after such a lengthy time in politics, at the level he's been playing at, I would have little clear thought left to me at all.

[Jennifer_SFBA]

Maybe dementia will be the medical reason McCain may be dropped out of the presidential race by agreement between the Republican National Committee (RNC) and him considering the number of Republicans who don't like McCain, that McCain has a multitude of serious Character deficits, and that McCain is not an intellectual match for Obama.