[sfdefender]

I think we all agree that we need to end the war. I choose victory. we can't leave until we have created a stable government in iraq. once the y can defend themselves from the terrorists, then we leave. If we leave now then Iraq will become a haven for international terrorism.

[Jennifer_SFBA]

You have presented rational thought about the situation the United States is in in Iraq. I think differently about it though. Elsewhere in this forum I wrote:

"Under international law, the U.S.' military adventurism in Iraq is illegal for the reason that there never was legal foundation for the United States to be in Iraq militarily. The United States needs to impeach Bush, Cheney et al and "bring them to justice" for 9/11, wars in the middle east, torture, etc., (9/11 having been used as the "red herring" provocation to justify U.S. military intervention in the middle east, the Patriot Act, etc.), publically denounce illegal acts by U.S. government officials involved in those events, apologize to the world in the United Nations where the case for the illegal war in Iraq was first made and put forward in the United Nations U. N. resolutions to end and resolve secret society inspired and religiously fomented, conflicts around the world.

That's just the beginning."

and I wrote;

"A friend and I are distributing DVDs of the second edition of "Loose Change" about 9/11.' It's available to see free on YouTube:

http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...id feed&hl=en

9/11 Press for Truth is about 4 women's struggle for the hearings that became the U.S. government's 9/11 Report, some new to me connections to Pakistani Intelligence's involvment in the money trail and prior knowledge by FBI, and people's continued dissatisfaction with the 9/11 Report and desire for hearings that are truthful and substantive.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...id feed&hl=en

"In Plane Site" shows video that puts into question whether or not commercial airliners or U.S. military aircraft, possibly drones, flew into the World Trade Center towers and more:

http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...ocidfeed&hl=en

At the following website, there are 18 9/11 documentary videos, 63 9/11 video commentaries and 25 translated 9/11 videos:

http://freepressinternational.com/ca...documentaries/ "

Mr. Anderson posted the following video:

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=4380137365762802294&q=William+ Rodriguez&hl=en

[Jennifer_SFBA]

Continued:

There is much more besides including government drug running, mind control of innocent Americans by torturous means, assassinations of democratically elected officials, the creation of AIDS as a bio-weapon and the release of the same on populations in America and Africa, see reference links on various subjects I mentioned and book reviews of below:

I finally found "The Greenbaum Speech," 1992, about Multiple Personality Disorder, Ritual Abuse by D Corydon Hammond, Ph.D., Counseling Psychology. It's certainly illuminating about U.S. government mind control purpetrated against innocent American citizens, and what there is for the psychological and psychiatric community to learn and do to help victims of it.

http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/so..._mindcon03.htm

Below is free video of Mark Phillips and Cathy O'Brian:

http://freepressinternational.com/in...ontrol/page/3/

Cathy O'Brian's and Mark Philips' website is below. I recommend reading their books:

http://www.trance-formation.com/

About Bush, Sr. et al and the JFK assassination:

http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...54720737304741

http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...=JFK+Jr.&hl=en

About the RFK assassination:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/programme...ht/6169006.stm

http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...54720737304741

Conservatives who are saying the same things and leading in a fight to stop it that I posted elsewhere in this forum are at links below:

The conservatives below KNOW there is much seriously wrong in America. It is striking how similar their "out of the mainstream" themes are:

Lyndon LaRouche http://www.etext.org/Politics/LaRouche/eir.930301

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lyndon_Larouche

Alex Jones http://www.infowars.com/

http://www.prisonplanet.com/

http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...&q=terrorstorm

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alex_jones

William Cooper http://hiddenmysteries.com/xcart/pro...roductid=16289

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Milton_William_Cooper

Ross Perot http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ross_Perot

Dr. John Coleman http://www.apfn.org/apfn/300.htm

Bo Gritz' letter to Bush '41' February, 1988 while Bush '41' was still Vice President of the United States also addressed to Harry Reid, Senator, Nevada concerning knowledge of drug and arms running in the "Golden Triangle," Burma by Richard L. Armitage:

http://www.serendipity.li/cia/gritz1.htm

[Jennifer_SFBA]

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A 2006 article about Richard L. Armitage's more recent actitivites since Bo Griitz' letter to Bush and Reid among others in 1988.



Richard L. Armitage
From SourceWatch

(Redirected from Richard Armitage)

(Year - 2006)

Richard L. Armitage, who served as Deputy Secretary of State during President George W. Bush's first term, has emerged as a key witness in the CIA leak probe," Kenneth R. Bazinet and James Gordon Meek reported in the May 20, 2006, New York Daily News.

"Armitage has been questioned several times, but is not expected to be indicted by the federal grand jury investigating who outed CIA spy Valerie Plame to journalists in 2003, sources said." However, Armitage's "testimony could hurt" I. Lewis Scooter Libby, Vice President Dick Cheney's "indicted former chief aide," or Karl Rove, President George W. Bush's "political guru," Bazinet and Meek wrote. "Two sources familiar with the case said Armitage, Rove and Libby all had contacts with the press about Plame. Unlike Rove and Libby, Armitage appears to have tried to dissuade reporters from writing about her."

Member of the Aspen Strategy Group.

Armitage, considered to be a conservative "neo con" (neo-conservative), is a member of the Council on Foreign Relations.[1] He is one of the signers of the January 26, 1998, Project for the New American Century PNAC letter to President William Jefferson Clinton.[2] He is also a former board member for CACI International, the private military contractor, which "is being investigated by no less than 5 US agencies for possible contract violations" and "employed four interrogators at Abu Ghraib prison" in Iraq, one of whom was singled out by General Taguba in his report on abuses of Iraqi detainees at the prison.[3]

"Most recently, Richard Armitage was the President of Armitage Associates. Previously, he served with the rank of Ambassador as the Coordinator for Technical and Humanitarian Assistance to the newly independent states of the former Soviet Union. President George Herbert Walker Bush appointed him as a Presidential Special Negotiator for the Philippines Military Base Agreement, a Special Mediator for Water in the Middle East and as a Special Emissary to Jordan during the 1991 Gulf War. In addition, Richard served in the Pentagon as Assistant Secretary of Defense and Deputy Assistant Secretary of Defense. He attended the U.S. Naval Academy and then completed four tours of duty in Vietnam."[4]

"Richard Armitage, one of the Iran-Contra plotters, was a board member of Database Technologies (DBT)/ChoicePoint Inc before taking office under George Bush Jr. ... Choicepoint is a partner of data mining company SAIC whose web site proclaims it has "developed a strategic alliance with ChoicePoint Incorporated to provide our clients with quick and effortless information retrieval from public records data. ChoicePoint Incorporated maintains thousands of gigabytes of public records data.""[5]

"In the 1980 Reagan campaign Mr. Armitage was senior advisor to the Interim Foreign Policy Advisory Board, which prepared the President-Elect for major international policy issues confronting the new administration. From 1981 until June 1983 Mr. Armitage was Deputy Assistant Secretary of Defense for East Asia and Pacific Affairs in the Office of the Secretary of Defense." [6]

"Armitage, who was denied a 1989 appointment as Assistant Secretary of State because of links to Iran-Contra and other scandals, served as Assistant Secretary of Defense for International Security Affairs in the Reagan years. U.S. Government stipulations in the Oliver North trial specifically named Armitage as one of the DoD officials responsible for illegal transfers of weapons to Iran and the Contras." [7]

[Jennifer_SFBA]

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1) EMERGING VIRUSES, AIDS AND EBOLA: Nature, Accident or Intentional? by Leonard G. Horowitz, D.M.D., M.A., M.P.H. Horowitz is a dentist who got drawn into AIDS research when investigating the Acer/Bergalis AIDS contamination case several years ago. ... Like a determined blood hound, Horowitz kept after this story, nailing down every lead, every paper, every person. He interviewed, he delved into cartons of old files, he compared medical research articles, he looked at corporate/government collusions. The result- -combining Horowitz's story of the research with the research itself--is well worth the price. A key piece of evidence is a 1970 government document budgeting money for a biological weapon for which there is no known cure nor natural immunity. HIV, according to Horowitz, was probably spread with the early Hepatitis B vaccine trials in the gay community in the late '70s. Population control, CIA biological warfare tests on the general public, widespread contamination of polio and other vaccines, and Nazi influence in public policy are just a few of the topics Horowitz weaves together to illustrate this wedding of bad intentions and medical technology. Now that I've read this shocking book, I wonder: Now what? Will this groundbreaking, gutsy book make a difference?

2) I was so lucky to get a copy of Emerging Viruses in August 1996 at a time when I was investigating the real origin of HIV viruses. After reading previous books by other authors, I still had major doubts about the possibility of man-made viruses and the implications of their intentional spreading through vaccines in the USA and Africa but this book definitely brought me the facts, the names, the motives, the references and articles, in brief, the evidence for this most tragic and satanic case. Moreover, this book was for me a jewel to discover much more about many other State and World crimes and the who ? how ? why ? Its reading really was a tremendous trigger to understand the world we live in. Since August 1996, I have bought about 1500 other books, about 200 in English and over 1000 in French, either difficult to find (in France ! ), Christian books or ancient books of the 19th century about History, esoterism, especially the history of a web of secret societies leading the world since the French Revolution (and before...). I had the opportunity to talk with Leonard Horowitz and to translate his conference on the subject of Emerging Viruses into French when he came to Paris.The book has now been available in French since January 1999 and is also being spread in France; when I had the opportunity to recommend it in a meeting in Paris near a bookstore which had twelve copies, more than 20 people bought it or ordered it : everything was sold in a matter of minutes. I am most thankful to the author for he made me understand why such a crime against humanity (aids) had happened, which has transformed me by the Grace of the Lord from an atheist to an evangelical Christian. I strongly recommend this book to anyone in search of Truth. You will never see aids and its 15 million dead people the same way again. Reading Emerging Viruses was for me like an initiation to pass through the fake world looking-glass in order to discover the reality of past, present and future.This book is just a wonderful lamp, beside the Holy Bible in our chaotic world and its implications could bring you dozens of precious friends around the globe and even save your life. Watch out for the next flu pandemic from Hong-Kong or Beijing or the next Ebola outbreak and think twice - and read Emerging Viruses again ! - before getting any government immunization shot for very powerful wicked men think six billion people are too many for the planet and it looks as though they are ready to kill more millions of them whatever their race, country, social standing or faith !...

[Jennifer_SFBA]

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3) William Wagener TV Producer of "On Second Thought"

Dr. Horowitz has exhaustively reviewed the records, and I have verified independantly a dozen of his hundreds of facts stated.

This book is a must read TODAY, for anyone traveling, meeting lots of people for the first time, or going to the African continent. For the first time, the myth of the Green Monkey bite source for the rapid spread of AIDS disease, which under close scrutiny, it appears was specifically designed by agents of our Government, with the votes and appropriations of tax-payers money by Ex-Congressman Sikes, a southern democrat, who found ways to use his Committee position to financially help himself in his 1st Florida Congressional district. Though the fast spending and hawkish Mr. Sikes, is gone, the Tax-payers money he voted to spend back in the 1970's for research to develope a disease for which there was NO cure, is still taking, if you can bring yourself to believe and accept the documented track record and facts in Dr. Horowitz's book, still claiming American and African lives.

It was originally intended as a biological weapon against the Soviet's who were suspected of developing the same type of biological weapon. Or was there a more sinister motive?

If Hitlers extermination camps are empty and vacant, perhaps those carrying out the Human Death sentence are still among us and perhaps no vaccination serum can be trusted, today. Certainly, millions of Africans who were vaccinated by W.H.O. for other diseases in the 1970's and 1980's, are dying today from AIDS on a scale hard for the western mind to comprehend. How often many of us go to a friendly local doctor to get a vaccinations for us or our children. Do we ask, "Dr. can you personally affirm that you have checked all the microbes and know this serum is safe?" Of course not. If W.H.O. did infect millions of Africans, then a crime worse than Nazi Germany was done in the 1970's and 1980's and perhaps is still being carried out in another arena.

If you care your health and love your children, you need to consider the mountain of evidence Dr. Horowitz has amassed, and remember governments create "crisis" in order to persuade unwitting citizens to surrender more of their liberty. Remember, more humans have been systematically murdered by governments, than all the serial and other individual criminal murderers. A fact, that Governments around the world would like us all to forget.

If you read only one book this year, make it this one. All that is necessary for evil to succeed, is for good men to do nothing.

4) In fact, the evidence is out there and you just need to look for it and put it all together......Horowitz has done all the hard work for you making this reading hard to put down even for a minute.

Not surprised at all at WHO involvement and coverups...and pretty much sits with the Global 2000 agenda signed off by Vance and Co....

Great reading but scarry...

5) I applaud the courage of Leonard Horowitz in exposing the truth about what the government has been up to for a long time. As a researcher I have uncovered many things that are almost too ugly to be believed. There are many out there wondering why anyone inside the government or out would do such hideous things. I strongly recommend the readers of this review to read the book "Bringers of the Dawn" by Barbara Marciniak. This book may also be hard to believe but the pieces of the puzzle will come together when you read this book. But hang on to your seats. If you also purchase the book "Power vs. Force" by Dr. David Hawkins, you will find a technique that will show you how to prove or disprove anything in either of the above books (or anything else for that matter). The answers are out there. We just have to keep searching.

[Jennifer_SFBA]

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6) Dr. Tim O'Shea ----California

When I discovered Horowitz's book I had just finished a chapter of my own book, entitled The Sanctity of Human Blood (amazon). Now I must go back and rewrite that chapter, in light of the immense body of research Horowitz has brought forth.

Emerging Viruses is a pivotal work, a landmark book. It is certainly not for the average reader, because of the technical nature of many of the medical concepts and also simply because of the overwhelming amount of information it ties together in order to support its premises. Works this meticulously researched can hardly be challenged, except by dimwits who would do so on an emotional or political level. Most likely those who do challenge Horowitz have not managed to actually read the book.

This is not some wacky conspiracy theory Dr. Strangelove whim. Horowitz has thoroughly demonstrated the plausibility and likelihood that -AIDS virus was deliberately manmade - it was deployed into populations in Zaire, New York and San Francisco - it was a longterm biological weapons project that got a little out of control - but it's OK, because the players are still in control: AIDS will bring billions in research, worthless drugs and vaccines, and political leverage.

The dynamics of vaccine development are brilliantly illuminated - the international pharmaceutical industry, the governments of the US, Germany, and England, the arms dealers, and the international banking institutions. This is the milieu in which the current vaccination program at large today in the US must be evaluated. Health, immunity, disease control, infant mortality -- these issue are secondary to the economic and political forces in play. What a shock - corruption at city hall. But this book goes beyond what even the most jaded of us have been able to put together. The entire concept of vaccines as a treatment for any disease should now be re-thought in the light of Horowitz's stunning work.

7) It is shocking. Not too much shocks me in this day and age, but Mr.Horowitz grabs you by the throat and slaps you awake. Horowitz's research is thorough and he tackles contrasting research and opinions head on, not leaving any doubt about the policies of the US military-medical-industrial complex to keep the power over many in the hands of a few. Does this inlcude systematically controlling and reducing World population (not just 3rd world, but the entire world) through the use of Biological Warfare tactics? There is always the nagging question of wether the release of wasting diseases i.e AIDS, Ebola were accidentally or intentionally introduced into the human population. What never crosses your mind however is wether or not they were introduced. Either way these were clearly man made viruses. This should be mandatory reading for everyone on the Planet.

[Jennifer_SFBA]

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8) The creation and spread of AIDS is no accident. Horowitz details the when, where, why, and who created and infected thousands of Americans with the deadly AIDS virus. It's so shocking it's hard to believe. Get your head out of the sand and read this book. SL, Memphis

9) A reading of "Emerging Viruses" will make clear the threat we all face from a government with absolute power! It also gives good reason to all the Military personnel who are now giving up long and successful careers,and/or risking Court Martial to stay in control of their own health by refusing the Antrax vaccine, as well as to the parents who are resisting the Hepatits B vaccine for their children. You will also be surprised at what Horowitz's research shows about the cancer epidemic we now have. While some may try to say "this is paranoia", Dr. Horowitz shows the "facts" as documented by the Creators of these deadly weapons! His research is thorough and he tackles the tough questions head on. This book is non-fiction and more freightening than fiction. A little paranoia may well be in order!

10) The United States government has devoted much time, energy, and money to develop ever more dangerous and destructive biological weapons. Dr. Horowitz's book is convincing. He has researched all that is available to the general public concerning the origins of AIDS and Ebola. The ring of truth reverberates throughout this book. Those of us who "know" how this government works, also know that Dr. Horowitz has hit the gold vein. Many people prefer to keep their heads in the sand. If, however, you are interested in learning the truth beyond the governmental press release, then this is your cup of tea. If you prefer to remain ignorant, avoid this book at all costs! Dr. Horowitz doesn't pull any punches. He names those who are involved, including Dr. Gallo.

11) This book will shock you and make you research more about the consequences of biologicals manufactured and unleashed. The author has gathered a lot of material and evidence indicating that "AIDS" and Gulf War Syndrome have been deliberately unleashed, with "AIDS" appearing first and introduced into select communtities of White educated young gay men, beginning in New York and New Jersey in 1978, supported by documentations presented by Dr. Alan Cantwell Jr., MD, ally of Dr. Horowitz. You can do further research by reading Dr. Cantwell's books, 'Aids And the Doctors of Death' and 'Queer Blood'. Dr. Horowitz does not mince words when he points to the direction of our very own military "adventures" which have sought to develop biologicals which would be refractory to the human auto-immune system, eg., "AIDS"$$, or as Dr. Eva Sneed puts it, 'Some Call It AIDS, I call It Murder', see book! Well, if this review is not censored, then consider yourself lucky to have this vital info regarding the "NEW ORDER" and its most hidden objectives, which is Malthusian in scope, to drastically and severely reduce human populations on planet Earth. You do not have to wait to hear any of this seemingly "outlandish" stuff on the Art Bell show, just BUY THIS BOOK right now, and order several for your friends, too, and they won't ever think of being complacent in light of Horowitz's incredible book! Isn't this what "glasnost" should be about in this Democratic Republic, and getting truth revealed......eventually!

[Jennifer_SFBA]

Mahatma (great soul) Ghandi said the following:

Victory attained by violence is tantamount to a defeat, for it is momentary.

I object to violence because when it appears to do good, the good is only temporary; the evil it does is permanent.

What difference does it make to the dead, the orphans and the homeless, whether the mad destruction is wrought under the name of totalitarianism or the holy name of liberty or democracy?

In the attitude of silence the soul finds the path in a clearer light, and what is elusive and deceptive resolves itself into crystal clearness. Our life is a long and arduous quest after Truth.

Happiness is when what you think, what you say, and what you do are in harmony.

Always aim at complete harmony of thought and word and deed. Always aim at purifying your thoughts and everything will be well.

and Gene Knudsen Hoffman wrote;

"If I go into the world to win, to control, to make peace through coercion, or to prove the righteousness of my position --- there is no way I can come to reconciliation. For reconciliation to occur, I need to have a respect for the divine in the opposition and enough humility to know that I don't have all truth on my side." - Gene Knudsen Hoffman

http://www.peaceheroes.com/PeaceHero...senhoffman.htm

Gene Knudsen Hoffman, "I'm a Quaker and I've been involved with peace for fifty years." ... "I maintain that we must listen to the oppressor as a human being. The oppressor has grievances, suffering, and we have to listen to both sides. An enemy is a person whose story we have not heard." ... "Restorative justice brings the victim and the perpetrator together."

[NeoCon Newbie]

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[Jennifer_SFBA]

The United States started it long ago and is continuing today. Please see the free video below that Jane of Arc posted elsewhere in this forum.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...rnment&hl= en

[Lionhearted]

http://images.cafepress.com/product/79845470v4_150x150_Front.JPG

Will someone please take this kid's scissors and paste from him

[Jennifer_SFBA]

Joan of Arc's link I posted at post 11 above doesn't get people where they are going, so I'm posting again below:

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-3799314405910661612&q=Moyers+Secret+Government&hl=en