[The Shadow]

I suppose we should not even consider these two because the "liberal" media tells us so:

David Broder (http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/04/26/AR2007042602957.html):
At least six of the eight declared candidates -- Biden, Clinton, Sens. Barack Obama (Ill.) and Christopher J. Dodd (Conn.), former senator John Edwards (N.C.) and New Mexico Gov. Bill Richardson -- showed themselves to be both substantive and direct in their responses. The other two, Rep. Dennis J. Kucinich (Ohio) and former senator Mike Gravel (Alaska), provided a counterpoint of left-wing ideas that drew rebukes for a lack of seriousness from Biden and Obama.

George Stephanopoulos (http://mediamatters.org/items/200705010012?f=h_topic)
Well, but setting aside Mike Gravel -- who provided the comic relief -- everyone else seemed credible, seemed intelligent, seemed like they knew what they were talking about. That has to bring the front-runners down a bit.

Peter Wallsten and Mark Z. Barabak (http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/nation/la-na-debate27apr27,0,1397304.story?coll=la-home-headlines)

The format for the 90-minute debate allowed each candidate a total of 11 minutes to talk — giving Kucinich and Gravel, both of whom have a negligible showing in polls, equal time with the front-runners

Bob Schieffer (http://www.cbsnews.com/htdocs/pdf/face_042907.pdf):
But clearly, somebody like senator--former Senator Mike Gravel is
not going to be a serious candidate, and yet he gets equal time, and in the--I
would just say it honestly, in my view, it just wastes time.

Larry King (http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0704/26/lkl.01.html) seems to think Kucinich's cause would be helped if he were taller?!?!?

Makes me wonder why we even bother with the process.

[Jane of Arc]

The Shadow,

Excellent post! Makes me wonder why we bother with the process, too. It's so overwhelming when our 4th estate is owned by the corporations who sell us their war, (GE/NBC- "we bring good things to life"?) toothpaste, movies, batteries, war, cell phones, video game amd oh, yeah, their version of the 'news'.

The FOX and other slimy media predators are watching the hen house and America's brain is turning into Swiss cheese. Turn off your TV's permanently! I did. Stop allowing the programming. (It happens when you don't even know it.) Hell, throw the damn box out the window! Sounds radical? This country needs radical.

And corporate media manipulation isn't a liberal or conservative phenomenon. Are you shocked liberals that I said that? There's a reason why conservatives find the news 'liberal' and the liberals find the news 'conservative'. The media producers creatively pander to both. (Except for FOX. Liberals don't watch it.) That's how good commercialism, brain-washing, 'sell your product at any cost' destroys our democratic republic.

[FDRfollower]

Harkening back to a different time....

The Shadow Knows! :evil:

Not too bad a post Mr. Shadow and Jane D'arc. I too tear out my hair everytime I hear the pundits on either side denouncing the "liberal" or "conservative" media when its all the same thing!

But, when candidates go along to get along, what do you do? When there's no on-the-ground political party structure to go out and mobilize people and instead focus on the money for idiotic TV blurbs, what do you do?