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MAGI
09/11/07, 07:16 am
I just gave up trying to get the full article posted on The Connecticut page, B1 on 9/10/07, so I'll just write it out. The system is in place for some primaries taking place today. Not happening in my town so I'll not be able to try it today, but it will be in place for the "November general election".

The new technology repaces the mechanical lever - style machines that have been in use for decades. Vision and mobility- impaired voters also willl have access to a vote - by - phone system that willl enable them to cast their votes privately, as rewquired by federal law. This guide will help familiarize you with both systems.

1. CHECK IN.
Show driver's license or other proof of identity.

2. Take ballot
You will receive a placemat-sized paper ballot with the candidates listed in rows by party. Take the ballot to one of the "privacy booths" to fill out.

3. Fill out ballot
Shows ovals and a required pen is provided..."as you would a lottery ticket or standardized test. There's a magnifying glass provided in the booth. If a mistake is made, call for a new ballot which will be exchanged.

4. Submit Ballot
Place your finished ballot in a privacy folder that is provided.
Walk your ballot over to a voting machine and feed it into the slot. The machine will accept the ballot like a vending machine taking a dollar bill.
The ballots fall into two stacks inside the machine. Poll workers count the write in votes by hand.

The article shows the "privacy booth", the "vote tallying machine" and the "slot" which:

Once the polls close, the results are spit out on a cash-register-like receipt for poll workers.

There is also a storage space for unreadable ballots for cases in which voters decline to fill out a substitute ballot

I'll have to check that out because i'm not making sense of "a substitute ballot".

Sounds good.............
What is you opinion, Jane? I wonder how many States are going this way? If there is any question on the vote, the ballots are there to be viewed against the "register tape".

Thelonious
07/23/08, 03:51 am
JR,
This is a really big topic. It will take several posts.
I will start in the third world and work my way round to Connecticut and Georgia.

Magi,
Thanks by the way for the post above.

In third world countries... like say Botswana, they have fair democratic elections... How do they do it in a country with NO computers and practically NO electricity to supply the electronic voting machines? How do they do it in a country where most people cannot read and write and with a plethora of tribal languages?
Well, they have paper ballots with symbols and colors. They have every ballot box numbered registered and accounted for so if one goes missing everybody knows that a crime [election fraud] has been committed.
The seals on ballot boxes are broken only by officials in the presence of representatives of all the political parties. All the ballots are counted, only in the presense of representatives of all the political parties. Polling stations are monitored to avoid ballot stuffing.
Voters are registered so that everybody knows what the maximum number of ballots in any given precinct is.
These are the very basics of a fair election. These are some of the things that international observers look at when they observe an election.
When these procedures are respected and followed, an accusation of election fraud can be followed by a recount... because all the paper ballots have been preserved....

How much of the above happens in the USA?
Well, it looks like Connecticut is well on its way to having verifiable election results this year. That is excellent.

Now, look at Georgia. Georgia is very special, because they are progressive and in many ways more advanced than the rest of the country. They have done away with paper altogether and they have electronic voting. So you just go to the ultra-modern touch-screen machine, push a few times and bingo!!! democracy has just happened.
Never mind the fact that those machines were sold by a company which has made HUGE campaign contributions [mostly to Republicans] over the years.
Never mind the fact that the software in those machines that actually do the counting is proprietary... that means "company secret"... nobody except a few big wigs at that company have ever or can ever see what software is actually running on the machines...
Never mind the fact that no recount is ever possible... or that cute little power failures in selected counties could easily make the machine forget thousands of votes....
or hackers... yeah, just forget hackers... the guys who can get inside the computer of the space shuttle while it is in space... never mind that...

I apologize in advance for strong language, but anyone who thinks that this is a good idea is out of their fcuking mind.

I do not believe that it is a coincidence that Paper Ballots are now the rule in solidly democratic Connecticut and that this Totally Unreliable Disastrous system is now the rule in solidly republican Georgia.

JR,
What do you have against paper ballots? Do you believe that an electoral system in which absolutely nothing is verifiable is good for American Democracy? Will you be happy to condemn the Georgia Republicans who made this mess?


p.s. by the way JR, you don't have to believe me. Do 15 minutes of research and you will be shocked and horrified at how DUMB the politicians have been about electronic voting.

Thelonious
08/04/08, 03:12 am
JR,
Have you read this?
Do You have any input on it?
Campaign contributions from corporations seeking government contracts is Free Speech right???
LOL

Magi2
08/04/08, 05:59 am
Thelonious,
CT. had the old lever type machines until this new system. We NEVER went to the E Voting system that has been the cause of so much corruption as shown in the Hawaii article .

Why did the U.S. ever go to those machines?
I'll answer that.....easy to corrupt in so MANY ways that can never be traced.......
Why don't we hear from JR. on this point?
:confused:

"What fools we mortals be"!

Magi2
08/04/08, 06:30 am
I asked google why:
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2004/05/10/us_e_voting/

and
here's 3,780,000 hits............

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&ie=UTF-8&sa=X&oi=spell&resnum=1&ct=result&cd=1&q=Why+did+the+US+choose+e+voting%3F&spell=1

The Brad Blog has, it seems, the very latest when it comes to voting fraud:

http://www.bradblog.com/