[Jennifer_SFBA]

The short cartoon video below, "Gay Education," contains scientific information that anti-gay regressive, repressive, supressive, coercive CONSERVATIVES oppose being taught in public schools. The video explores current scientific inquiry into the roles that genes, hormones and birth order play in the formulation of human sexual orientation and that touches on scientific findings of feminizing influences of the male fetus in utero. It is just amazing the amount of good quality scientific information that is able to be taught in the 4 minute 50 second cartoon video that is at the link below:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PooEhBxh0NY&feature=related

[Jennifer_SFBA]

© Associated Press, 1998


Feminine Boy forced out of Private Georgia School

by Dan Sewell
30 October 1998

Alex McLendon
Photo - Associated Press

CARROLLTON, Ga. - Patrick Nelson had heard there was a cross-dressing boy enrolled at his high school. But darned if he could figure out just who it was.

"I looked for him the first couple of weeks. The honest truth - I didn't even know," Patrick said.

One day, he was talking about the mystery to a friend, who smiled and pointed to the pretty blonde at the desk next to his.

"I said, 'No way, that's too weird!'" Patrick recalled. " Then I thought about it, and I said, 'So what's so weird about that?'"

But while Patrick and his friends were willing to accept Matthew "Alex" McLendon's feminine appearance and mannerisms, others in this rural conservative western Georgia community of about 20,000 weren't.

And so 15-year-old Alex withdrew from school under pressure, leaving supporters of the popular, easygoing student wondering what threat they had supposedly been protected from.

"Alex wasn't causing any problems. She got along well with everybody," said classmate and friend Meayghan Denkers. "She wasn't trying to change anybody to be like her or anything."

After a heated meeting of the board of the small, private Georgian Country Day School on Oct. 6, Alex was "invited to withdraw" or face expulsion. Alex, who had enrolled in September after attending public school, was cited for wearing a tongue ring, but had been called before school authorities earlier about his female dress, makeup and hairstyle.

Most of Alex's classmates - including some of the boys - wore bows in their hair in protest until ordered to remove them by the principal. Some indignantly quoted their school handbook, which urges acceptance of "diversity in opinion, culture, ideas, behavioural characteristics, attributes or challenges."

"Alex represents something that's way beyond the experience and the comfort zone of the very conservative people we live with," said Lori Lipoma, Meayghan's mother and a drama teacher at the school. "I really think we all lost something very precious that night."

School officials would not discuss the case.

"We make no comments on students," said Rex Camp, chairman of the board of the school, where tuition is more than $5,000 a year for the 50 or so high school students. Kindergarten and elementary students are in a separate building, but one parent of a 6-year-old expressed concern at the board meeting about Alex's effect on younger children.

"I believe in sexual standards in society, and I want my child in a school that holds the same sexual ethics that I do," said Craig Neal.

Alex, who speaks in a soft, feminine voice, began cross-dressing two years ago and considers herself "95 percent girl."

Larry Harmon, a Dade County, Fla., psychologist who counsels parents in sexual identity, said such feelings appear to fit a rare condition called gender-identity disorder. She said it doesn't necessarily imply homosexuality, and it's difficult to know how many youngsters have it and why.

"I'm not homosexual," Alex said. "I just look like a girl and I dress like a girl. It wasn't anything flamboyant, not sequins or anything. ..."

She enrolled in night school but quit in less than a week because he didn't feel the courses offered would help his education goals. She hopes to pursue a career in fashion merchandising and modelling.

Alex said Thursday she's looking into the possibility of home-schooling.

"I do wish I was still at the Georgian School," she said.

At the Georgian Country Day School - where Alex said she enrolled to get a better education - she struck up a friendship with Meayghan and was soon invited to spend nights at her house. The first few times, Meayghan's mother popped in on them unannounced just in case.

"They'd be sitting there doing hair, or painting nails, and I said to myself, 'This is a girl,'" Lipoma said.

A few weeks into the school year, she and her father were summoned to a meeting with school officials. They said that parents had complained, and that she had to dress like a boy, Alex recalled. She refused. A special board meeting followed.

Under the law, a public school would have to show that Alex was disrupting education or undermining safety. A private school has more leeway.

Alex's mother died when she was young. She said that her cross-dressing initially caused a rift with her father, but that the older man stood with her in the dispute with the board. Mack McLendon declined an interview.

"School is supposed to be preparing you for life," Alex said. "Parents are trying to protect their kids by covering their eyes. It's going to be a real shock for some of these parents when their kids get out into the real world."

[Jennifer_SFBA]

The link for the story above is the one below:

http://www.antijen.org/Articles/AM06/AM.html

[Jennifer_SFBA]

"Alex ... considers herself "95 percent girl."

"... one parent of a 6-year-old expressed concern at the board meeting about Alex's effect on younger children."

"I believe in sexual standards in society, and I want my child in a school that holds the same sexual ethics that I do," said (CONSERVATIVE) Craig Neal."

It is not possible, by force, or influence, to make any child, or person be a sexuality or, gender that that child, or person has not inherited naturally, and yes, the sexuality, or gender of a person is not a lifestyle:

You will need to copy and paste the link below and, then, scroll down to "Man raised as girl dies tragically" to see the video:

http://video.google.com/videosearch?sourceid=navclient&ie=UTF-8&rlz=1T4SUNA_enUS263US263&q=boys%20forced%20to%20be%20girls&um=1&sa=N&tab=wv#

[Jennifer_SFBA]

The article below dated July 4, 2008 is from the Telegraph.CO.UK website:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/earth/main.jhtml?xml=/earth/2008/04/07/scimonk107.xml

"Boys and their toys? It's biological, not social

By Nic Fleming, Science Correspondent
Last Updated: 4:01pm BST 07/04/2008

Boys prefer playing with cars to dolls because of basic biological differences rather than social pressures, scientists say.

The males monkeys played with the 'boys' toys while the females played with 'boys' and 'girls' toys

Researchers observed young male monkeys spent more time playing with vehicles than with cuddly toys.

They believe this suggests that in most cases boys have an innate predisposition for masculine toys, which is then reinforced by what they learn from their parents, friends and wider society.

Dr Kim Wallen, a psychologist at Yerkes National Primate Research Center in Atlanta, Georgia, studied a group of captive, mainly juvenile male and female rhesus monkeys.

The animals were offered two categories of toys - ones with wheels such as wagons and other vehicles, and various dolls and cuddly toys including such as a Winnie the Pooh.

advertisementIn a series of videoed experiments one of each type of toy was placed 30ft apart to see which monkeys would be attracted to which category.

In most cases the monkeys formed a group around one of the toys and eventually one of them would snatch it and run away.

Dr Wallen and colleagues, found the 11 males spent more time playing with wheeled toys, while the 23 females played with both the cuddly and wheeled toys equally.

Their conclusion contradicts those of the dominant psychological theory that the preference of boys for vehicles and toy soldiers and that of girls for dolls is down to social rather than innate influences.

Dr Wallen, whose study is published in the journal Hormones and Behavior, and highlighted on NewScientist.com, said: "A five-year-old boy whose compatriots discover has a collection of Barbies is likely to take a lot of flak."

He added his team chose to study young monkeys as their behaviour was less likely to be determined by social pressures than children.

"They are not subject to advertising. They are not subject to parental encouragement, they are not subject to peer chastisement."

The study's findings support those of previous research on green vervet monkeys, which also showed males favoured more masculine toys.

Dr Gerianne Alexander, a psychologist at Texas A&M University in College Station, who led the vervet monkey study, said basic biological differences between sexes influence such choices before learned preferences.

She told NewScientist.com: "Together the results are compelling. There is likely to be a biological tendency that is amplified by society."

(NOTE: "... amplified by society." In America, the tendency of boys to prefer machines is emphasized to be war machines along with honor for miliitary service and social and economic benefits that go with it for the purpose of exerting America's will by force. The liberal view is to emphasize peace and mediation to the greatest extent possible in our world.)

Then there is this from the DotMom's website at the link below:

http://roughdraft.typepad.com/dotmoms/2006/12/i_think_its_in_.html

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December 07, 2006

Raising an un-girly girl
By Kristen C.

I have nothing against pink. It's a great color. You know, breast cancer awareness, a well-cooked steak, sapphires. And dresses or skirts, while fairly limiting when it comes to active toddler activities (like anything that involves more than sitting quietly in a chair or sleeping), are all fine and dandy. Hey, they got us through three months of wearing a leg cast, so I really shouldn't complain.

But when it comes to my daughter, I've tried to steer fairly far away from the overwhelming amount of pink and the "I swear it's a skirt, but clearly it's more like a belt" mini-skirts that seem to be forced down the throats of mothers with daughters.

Apparently girls don't like airplanes, trains, alligators, or elephants. And if they do, they must be pink. And "spoiled rotten" or "cute as a cupcake."

Ack.

Part of me isn't surprised at the current state of oversexualization of our society when you look at all the crap we're given in which to dress our girls. It's either blue trucks and yellow bulldozers, or pretty pink ponies and purple balloons.

Hmmm... I wonder who's got the power?

And so I've tried valiantly to dress my daughter in browns and blues, buy her cars and blocks, and offer her pants and sneakers. Sure, there's a bit of pink, but for the most part, I try to show her a plethora of options, most of which do not include lace or beading of any kind. And while she loves to put on makeup (thanks to watching me get ready every morning), and coddle baby dolls, I still believe I'm raising a well-rounded fairly un-girly girl who likes playing house just as much as banging on a tool bench.

But then just the other day, she came home from a shopping trip with a new Build-a-Bear dog dressed in... you guessed it... pink furry Ugg boots, a bright pink miniskirt, and a pink sweater with sequins.

SEQUINS???!!!!

My only thought? It had to be my mother-in-law.

Kristen is a former college music professor turned stay-at-home-mother/rock star to her daughter Quinlan.

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Have you ever heard the term pretty in pink, everyone looks good in pink including (i bet..you) I am also a firm believer in letting children dress themselves, but i had to draw the line when my daughter wanted to wear her Easter dress with sneakers. there is a time and a place for everything. Do you think kids make the clothes or clothes make the kids. Some people might think clothes are a trivial thing to talk about, but my mom always says people are judged by their appearance and you can never change a bad first impression. Well enough with the quotes just thought i would share my thoughts on this rainy afternoon.

Posted by: erin straticos | April 17, 2007 at 04:50 PM

My MIL used to buy clothes for my girls at the consignment shop "because they were such a great deal." TWICE she came with demin decked out with lace (what -- does she want my girls to be trashy? Who wears that???).... I tore the seams open, ripped out the lace, and sewed the clothes back up. And the girls ONLY wore those things to Nannie's house.

"Where's the cute lace?"

"It was horrid, so I took it out. Please don't buy that stuff. I don't want them to look sleazy."

She has stopped buying them anything embellished, thankfully. But it definitely took a while.

Oh -- and I have girly girls that love pink, but also LOVE the Power Rangers and cannot WAIT for tne next season to start.... Helen and I regularly have fights because she wants to wear her Power Rangers shirt with her Easter dress, which cracks me up. So you can have a girly girl that argues with the boys over who gets to be the Red Ranger today. I love it!

Posted by: Elaine | January 28, 2007 at 03:02 PM

God, thank you. I just found out my second child is a... gasp.. girl.

I wasn't a girlie girl and for seven years, I've been mother to a boy. A boy's boy. Here I am at 20 weeks and bulging and I was downstairs yesterday showing my boy how to throw a football - the correct way to get a spin on it. I can't imagine having a tea party.

I've looked at the bedding and clothing for infant girls at the places I'm likely to register and all I see for girls is this God-awful pink and purple. Gag me with a spoon (which is what pink and purple make me think of - Valley Girls).

Maybe I need to design a line of clothes for the pink-challenged: girls clothes for the independent infant. Peaches and greens and blues. Trucks with Wendy instead of Bob the Builder driving as the embrodiery. Tan ponies on cream. Let's get Pat Summitt to design a line of clothes!

Seriously, I wear dresses and do my hair and makeup. I've very feminine - looking... but I do NOT like pink (or purple).

After looking at baby clothes for my future daughter, I was beginning to think I was the ONLY one. Thankfully, I am not.

Posted by: DontLikePink | January 26, 2007 at 12:31 PM

Kristen-

I noticed that we (at least superficially) have a lot in common. I am Korean American (adopted) and my husband was in the Army until recently. We live in Dallas now. I have a 2.5 little boy who bears a striking resemblence to your daughter. I am working very full time and struggling with the balance issue. Let me know if you wnat to correspond directly to tnmay@grandecom.net - I don't see an email address for you here.

Best of luck with baby #2!

Posted by: Natalie | January 02, 2007 at 12:08 AM

My favorite colors have always been pink and purple so I dressed Lillianna in those colors when she was very young.
Now that she is 9,she is still drawn to those colors although anything that looks "cheetah-like" is her favorite...or anything with fur, jewels or glitter.

I don't think that clothes or toys makes a child strong or weak. I don't care if she plays with dolls or a truck. She is a smart and confident child and if she becomes president one day,I hope she is wearing pink!

Posted by: Robin P | December 10, 2006 at 02:56 PM

We have two daughters, and we've been amazed by how much pink clothing we have received--as gifts, hand-me-downs, etc. The highly gendered state of clothing for toddlers has also been a shock. Our girls are ages 1 and 2. The 2 year old likes to wear blue and green the best. We have yet to discover the preferences of the younger daughter. Knowing the way siblings divide and conquer, she'll probably fall in love pink. Luckily she does look good in it.

Thanks for a great post.

Posted by: Robin | December 09, 2006 at 08:33 AM

Sure, trucks and bulldozers are "power," but when your little son's favorite color is purple and his favorite animal is not a lizard and he doesn't like trucks -- our dilemma is just as ugly as yours. Girls are supposed to be denied any role but ornament; boys are allowed only to run, crush, and destroy. I can't freaking TAKE it.

Posted by: goodsandwich | December 09, 2006 at 04:09 AM

We have similar issues [translation = stinky pinky] I suspect it's largely a West Coast phenomenon, but that's based mainly upon watching 'Sesame Street' where girls where all sorts.

Cheers

Posted by: mcewen | December 08, 2006 at 04:36 PM

I had the same attitude before I had children. But I have learned that there is inborn personality that is beyond my doing. My 2-year-old is a girly girl in spite of my efforts to dress her in gender neutral colors and give her toys both girly and boy-like. I do think all kids like sparkles, but Esme particularly likes sparkles and purses and jewelry, etc. Then again, she can play with the boys on the playground and make her trucks go "Vroom vroom!" I guess my question is, do we have to suppress the feminine side of our children in order to make them more powerful? Can't we encourage both sides of them?

Posted by: aeron | December 08, 2006 at 11:07 AM

For what it's worth, my son is totally drawn to that same outfit. What kid doesn't love sparkles?

Posted by: Betsy | December 08, 2006 at 08:25 AM

Okay - I have to say I would have written that - before I had two boys. After two boys I was so sick of blue - is blue the only thing they'll wear - no now that they're 5 and 7 they also wear grey - and black - sweat pants. I'm having so much fun dressing my tough girly girl. She wears dresses and tights and likes barrets and her dolls - as well as taking her brothers' trucks, balls and space ships. There's no question who has the power in our house - the little she devil;)

Good luck to you tho!

Posted by: maria | December 07, 2006 at 03:40 PM

OMG...I totally understand where you are coming from. I firmly insist that my daughter's room is rose, not pink. OK, it's pink. But she's so tough & gritty that she's not a girly-girl. OK, she is, but she can also climb anything.

Can I also say that I *hate* that most of the sports clothing for girls is in pink.

BUT...I like that we can shop in the boys section without too much trouble. Twice as much clothing to choose from!"

[Jennifer_SFBA]

http://sayanythingblog.com/entry/study_boys_and_girls_are_different_from_the_start

Tuesday, April 08, 2008

Study: Boys And Girls Are Different From The Start
By Pilgrim on April 8, 2008 at 11:45 am 3 Comments

Metrosexuals everywhere are depressed by the news.

A new study has determined that boys will be boys and girls will be girls without ever having to learn either artificially - or from social settings. It comes naturally. This, of course, is crushing news to those who think that boys learning to play with toy soldiers and trucks and displaying signs of masculinity is bad, bad, bad.


"Boys prefer playing with cars to dolls because of basic biological differences rather than social pressures, scientists say.

The males monkeys played with the ‘boys’ toys while the females played with ‘boys’ and ‘girls’ toys. Researchers observed young male monkeys spent more time playing with vehicles than with cuddly toys.

They believe this suggests that in most cases boys have an innate predisposition for masculine toys, which is then reinforced by what they learn from their parents, friends and wider society."


I like this part:


"Dr Wallen and colleagues, found the 11 males spent more time playing with wheeled toys, while the 23 females played with both the cuddly and wheeled toys equally.

Their conclusion contradicts those of the dominant psychological theory that the preference of boys for vehicles and toy soldiers and that of girls for dolls is down to social rather than innate influences."

Dr Wallen, whose study is published in the journal Hormones and Behavior, and highlighted on NewScientist.com, said: “A five-year-old boy whose compatriots discover has a collection of Barbies is likely to take a lot of flak.”


Well, there’s the shocker of the day for you. We have a natural inclination to act a certain way because of our gender.

Most of us do anyway.

A salute to Moonbattery for this one.

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Do you want to know fact rather than supposition? I know about this better than those who just blow hot air. First, playing with Barbies WILL NOT make your son gay. That is a fallacy and a LIE. If that were true, I would be gay. I never discovered Barbie until twelve. The fact is I wanted to pretend to be boyfriend and husband like my dad. I needed a female doll to accurately do it. Having only Gi Joes, I tried to use one in that female role. This resulted in my parent tearing it in pieces, This was seen as homosexual behavior. Do you not see how ignorant this appears? What does the kid suppose to learn from the action of the parent? My parents had used the same generalized arguments to frighten me. This was one boy that refused to be bullied or denied. They never heard why I had secretly bought one. They just assumed without KNOWING the answer. They tore it up before my eyes. The honest communication between parents and child had been denied by their will. The example of a parent can have enormous consequences on their children. This act awakened an obsessive desire of toy destruction which had never been known before by me. The lasting effect has haunted me into adulthood. While loving the dolls, the act of my parent had kept flooding my young mind until thoughts became actions. There are those in law enforcement that says toy abuse leads to crimes against humanity. A 2006 university study in England says it is a rite of passage. I had made cassette tapes from media sources talking about it over many years. Things might have been different had they listened instead of just acting out of anger and fear from the beginning. This did cause me to duplicate it on selected dolls throughout my life just to prove to myself of my own masculinity. That was what I learned from my parents. Upon self analysis of their arguments, I knew they were showing an err in judgement. I never wanted to be a girl nor dress like a female. I was MASCULINE and enjoyed it. From the age of six, girls were my interest. They provided a stimulus of intellect and emotion not exhibited by the boys. Though I liked playing sports and the various activities, the girls were interesting in logic and choice. The principal of an elementary school had me transferred because his daughter and me enjoyed one another’s company. I never treated her but with respect and good manners. We never played barbies. The message was boys should not like girls. However, I knew that boys date and even marry the opposite sex when older. There was a natural attraction for me. I understood that there was a need to try and understand that gender that would one day enter my life as girlfriend and wife. Having been sexually assaulted by two male peers in elementary school did not make me hate my gender. It made me focus my anger toward them and the teacher. I never told nor used violence against them. Never had I known about oral sex in porn until unwillingly forced upon me while on my elementary school bus. That never made me try to have sex before marriage nor commit sexual offenses toward females. It was clearly known by me that my actions had consequences. What I could do was use the experience as a cartelist to be the best guy possible. My parents thought destruction of barbie and verbal abuse would assure my compliance to their will. NO!!! This only fueled my determination to not be denigrated by such ignorance. It was a battle set in firm conviction that no matter how long nor at what my personal cost, they would never win. The more they destroyed only resulted in replenishment of Barbies. It was a matter of principle versus fear and traditional ignorance. It has gone on for decades. One parent has died. It will stop with my or the other one’s death. You see I am one that does not follow blindly anyone or any belief. Gender confusion and all the other garbage used to explain why boys like barbies denies that there is a NATURAL attraction for males and females. Boys who have a strong attraction for females will be confused by the supposition that female dolls are ONLY for girls. This attraction is so powerful that they confuse the natural with the traditional ignorance of child rearing. Barbie is female and boys male. Do not boys grow up to date and marry females? Is this not acceptable behavior? Why then is it not recognized that some boys will like female dolls? Instead of being ignorant, the parents or guardians can use the dolls to teach the boys the proper respect and attitude toward females. If dolls is ONLY for girls, why are expectant fathers given them in child birth classes? Hypocrisy. They are to help them learn to take care of a real baby. This hypocritical use of doll play with males is acceptable. Why not use Barbies as a teaching tool?

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Careful Pilgrim, for some of the social conservatives here will tell you that “their behavior does not relate to human behavior”, it “has no real relationship to human beings at all”, and other such things.

likwidshoe on August 11, 2008 at 05:19 am

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Do we need gay education in our schools? I would enjoy seeing Freddie's comments here at POL, "I am one that does not follow blindly anyone or any belief." YEAH, Freddie! You go heterosexual boy!

Before commenting, please recite:

Grant me the serenity to ignore the trolls,
the courage to debate with honest opponents,
and the wisdom to know the difference.

“Poverty of goods is easily cured; poverty of the mind is irreparable.”

Another good liberal blog is at the link that follows from where I got the information in this post and post 7 above, sayanythingblog: http://sayanythingblog.com/entry/study_boys_and_girls_are_different_from_the_start/#c322890