[1tinsoldier]

America is not the President. It is not a flag or an anthem. More than the soil it rests on, America is the principles and ideals it was founded on. If an American citizen believes their sons and daughters are dying for the wrong reasons it is their duty to speak out long and hard to bring about change. Had it not been for the public protest how many more names would line the Vietnam memorial wall?

[amylee]

I beleive it unpatriotic to not question the presidents motives. We have so much more on the line in all this, we do not need to fall in line like good little school children.. We need to make all our voices audible, even if they are not always of the same opinion...


Amy

[anartgrey]

This country, with its institutions, belongs to the people who inhabit it. Whenever they shall grow weary of the existing government, they can exercise their constitutional right of amending it, or their revolutionary right to dismember it or overthrow it"
-- Abraham Lincoln,
16th President of the US
First Inaugural Address, March 4, 1861

To allow ANY sitting president to slowly dismantle everything this country was founded on, and should stand for, is unamerican. The following aspects of a free democracy, among others, have been undermined by intimidation or have been removed from our society in the last four years : freedom of speech, freedom of assembly, the writ of habeus corpus, minorities rights to vote (and have that vote actually counted), the Geneva convention, many many UN accords, environmental protection acts, the endangered species act, the right to privacy and most important of all, the feeling of safety that comes from knowing you can speak your mind and not be punished by your government for it. America as we knew it no longer exists. To stay silent is, in my opinion, inexcusable.

[Wafflepudding]

Ask any CEO of a major multinational corporation. They have the kind of power that kings and emperors in ancient times couldn't even dream of. They're beyond nationality, rule of law, race, political alignment, etc.

We all inevitably:

Work for a multinational corporation
Work for someone who has ties to a corporation (govt included)
Consume products which were developed or manufactured by a corporation
Depend on corporations for the most basic of our activities

Hell, ALL of us here are using sofware (from a massive, faceless corporation), paying for internet access (to a massive, faceless communications company) to access a server (supported through advertisement).

Corporations don't need a plan to take over the world, they already do. They own the physical means through which this statement is transmitted. Orwell himself would be scared senseless.

Nothing short of say, what happened in a Deus Ex ending, would completely dislodge corporate influence on our lives as it stands.

By the way I know that's off-topic but, I really recommend that videogame. Deus Ex. For the guys and girls out there that don't play much, I'll just say this:

The plot follows an agent in an anti-terrorist org. who discovers he's fighting a corporation-manufactured war on terrorism, in an attempt by the rivals of the illuminati and the knights templar to establish a new world order through a GE disease and social unrest. You can side with the illuminati, silhouette (freedom fighters) or... I would spoil the plot if I said more, but it approaches the concept of universal digital democracy you advocated Jen.

[1tinsoldier]

ennifer wants Bush tried for Murder, in a WAR TIME situation??? DId she call for the Death sentence for the CLINTONS for the 18 bodies they left behind in AR & DC, that somehow connected to them? Should Bill stand trial for WACO along with Rambo Reno, for killing innocent women & children??


YES, Bill Clinton should stand trial like any other American if a case can be made for wrong doing.

I want the current and prior President on trial for a lot of things and you should too.

So, are you with me, or do you want to protect politicians based on their party affiliation?