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Issues of freedom and equality cross state lines.

All forms of discrimination need to be addressed nationally. Just as slavery and a women's right to vote were not local issues, neither is Gay Marriage.

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All forms of discrimination need to be addressed nationally. Just as slavery and a women's right to vote were not local issues, neither is Gay Marriage.
There is no homosexual race. That takes away racism.
There is no homosexual gender. That takes away sexism.
There is no homosexual religion. That takes away anti religion claims.
There is no homosexual political party.
To have “discrimination” one must have something to be “discriminated” against.
Homosexuality is a perversion of the laws of nature. That alone is why homosexuals should not be allowed to marry.

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Homosexuality is a perversion of the laws of naturel That alone is why homosexuals should not be allowed to marry.

There are many examples of homosexuality in nature in addition to the human species.

your beliefs are a perversion of:
- the laws of nature (denial of evolution, homosexuality, global warming, etc..)
- gender/race (false application of superiority by white males)
- religion (promoting war, discrimination, separation under God's name rather than following the example's of Jesus)
- politics (prioritizing the profits of big business over the interests of the common people, disenfranchising voters, etc.)

That is why people like you should not be allowed to marry and reproduce.

To have “discrimination” one must have something to be “discriminated” against

"People" are being discriminated against. No one gives a rat's ass what category or label you assign them.

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homosexuality in nature makes no sense, as "homo" relates to man. ( ie homo-Sapian)

you make no sense, focusing on labels again instead of the substantive issue. why don't you go look up the word for having sex with yourself

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What else do animals do in nature?Animals kill each other.Animals have sex with younger animals. You know juveniles.Animals engage in incest.Male animals collect and breed with many females, then leave them after they are pregnant.Are we going to allow these behaviors because it also happens in nature? NO!

bravo. I agree completely. We should never judge what is human ethical behavior on what animals do. That's why it is unethical for humans to abuse, kill, and eat animals for the mere pleasure of it.

I was replying to your statement that homosexuality was a "perversion" of nature, meaning "unnatural". It is natural to the species of animal and humans that engage in it and is by no means an ethical equation that you or the government need to interject between two consulting adults.

What kind of discrimination is it?
discrimination against the rights and freedoms of a pair of human beings based on their sexual preference, which is no business of yours.

I am sure criminals feel they are discriminated against for being punished when caught.

Criminals? Criminals commit CRIMES. Gays simply have a different sexual preference than you! What is criminal about 2 consenting adults making love? And who is the victim? You? Why does what they do in their bedroom threaten you?

What sub group do homosexuals belong to?
again with the groupings. There are no SUB groups. No me, you, and them, only us, all born with equal rights. No one has to belong to a group before they can have rights assigned or taken away. I'll say this, however. If there is a God judging from above there will be a special sub-group reserved for you

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It is a perversion of the laws of nature because it is impossible for homosexuals to reproduce.

so if you ever had sex without the intention of reproducing because that would either make you a PERVERT not entitled to the same rights as pure procreaters or a HYPOCRITE!

Gays simply have a different sexual preference than you! What is criminal about 2 consenting adults making love?
So do rapist, pedophiles, people into bestiality, and people into sex with dead people.
Rapist=violent crime, pedophile=criminal child abuse, bestiality=animal abuse/criminal, necrophilia=defiling the dead/criminal. What part of "two consenting adults" are you having trouble understanding and working into your ethical equation?

I am not discriminated because the majority of society does not accept the perversion of homosexuality.

the majority did not accept Blacks voting, women voting, etc..

The last election was proof that the perversion of homosexual marriage is wrong. see the prior response.

Can you not defend your perversion without insulting people with different opinions? Is not that called being a bigot?

Can you not insult people with different sexual preferences by calling them perverted and call for them to have less rights than you?

Firs of all, I am not Gay, I am not black, I am not a woman, and I am not you, but I defend the rights of all of you.

Second, a bigot is someone who discriminates based on irrelevant differences between people. You, are calling for a restriction of human rights based on consenting adults sexual preferences. Given your written testimony, referring to you as "knuckle dragging" and "hate mongering" is not name calling. It is colorfully describing the activities you are engaged in.

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Yes but there is a black race, and a female sex

and, since you keep insisting on a label, there is heterosexual sexual orientation and a homosexual sexual orientation, which just like race and sex, should have no bearing on one's human rights.

How many catholic boys claimed they did not consent? How many rapist claim their victim wanted it.

your response here is so twisted and perverted in itself that I won't justify it with a response.

Can criminals claim...
again, "criminal" requires a crime and a victim.

Why do I/people keep using the "consenting adults" line? Because it is irrefutable, unless you support BIG Brother government dictating what you do in your bedroom and putting YOU in jail for having sex without the intent to reproduce!

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Well where did the victims of the homosexual priest say they were forced?

This debate is DONE.
The only good that can come from it is for people like Snowdog to see the true ugliness associated with viewpoints like yours.