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-V-
06/03/10, 02:59 pm
Though there is often opposing agendas between political parties it does not equate to two legitimate sides to every issue, as Bill Maher has pointed out on his show, regarding the regressive right-wing's campaign against evolution:

Bill Maher's New Rule: You don't have to teach both sides of a debate, if one side is a load of crap.

President Bush recently suggested that public schools should teach intelligent design, alongside the theory of evolution. Because, after all, evolution is quote, "just a theory." Then the President renewed his vow to drive the terrorists straight over the edge of the earth.
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even though there's a debate, in schools, and government, about this, there is no debate among scientists. Evolution... is supported by the entire scientific community.
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And the reason there is no real debate, is that intelligent design isn't real science. It's the equivalent of saying that the thermos keeps hot things hot and cold things cold, because it's a god. It's so willfully ignorant you might as well worship the U.S. Mail. It came again! Praise, Jesus!

No, stupidity isn't a form of knowing things. Thunder is high pressure air meeting low pressure air. It's not God bowling. Babies come from storks is not a competing school of thought... in medical school. We shouldn't teach both. The media shouldn't equate both...

Similarly, Keith Olbermann had this to say about Campbell Brown's latest interviews regarding her resigning from her poorly rated primetime CNN show, which he called the "I-Am-A-Martyr-To-Real-News tour":

Olbermann: "I've done the two kinds of news hours that she references by implication, one where you just read what's handed to you and you pretend that both sides -- correct and wrong -- merit equal consideration and you believe that you, and you alone in the world, are objective.

And I've done the news hour where you stick your neck out and tell the echo chamber it's wrong, and you try to get people thinking, and you get death threats in the mail, and dirty looks in the hallway. And trust me, of those two kinds, trying to present an 'unbiased perspective' isn't just easier, it's as easy as rereading the Associated press wire copy.

CNN's 8 o'clock news programs haven't failed because they're competing with opinion and interpretative news programs. They've failed because CNN hasn't figured out that everything it puts on the air is available to everybody who watches all day on the internet and if you don't bring something else to the table, they aren't going to watch!"

For example, if CNN could have broadcast before the Civil War, Campbell Brown would give the same amount of time and consideration to both sides of the argument as to whether dark skinned people should be the slaves of light skinned people. And if Wolf Blitzer could have interviewed Abe Lincoln, Wolf would have played Devil's advocate and integrated every argument of the slavers into the discussion -- to be "fair" to both sides of the argument instead of fair to black people and the principle of human equality and human rights.

Or, just imagine the interviews that Wolf and Campbell might have conducted if CNN, existed in Nazi Germany!

But why look back. All you have to do is turn on CNN today and hear them give equal time to discrimination against Gays because some homophobe believes "marriage is the union of a man and a woman" which is as idiotic and baseless as, "I believe voting as the right of a white male" or "I believe the sun revolves around the earth".

Walter Cronkite called for an end to the Vietnam debacle and it ended. There are no Cronkites today. No one who can be trusted to put journalistic integrity ahead of party politics and corporate sponsors. Because there are no Cronkites today, these Afghan and Iraq war debacles will go on longer than a decade.

Because there are no Cronkites today, our Congress is useless. If one party decides to block all legislation by the other, even if those efforts are to reform our energy policies, Wallstreet, our healthcare, insurance, and banking systems -- to prevent economic collapse, CNN will allow them to make up excuses for doing so.

It's not the equal time that's the problem. Both parties deserve equal time. But no party deserves the right to go unchallenged when they step up to America's microphone and make stuff up. "News" broadcasters should be held responsible for some degree of quality control that includes fact checking and investigative journalism.

Call me naive, but I always thought journalists should be society's Watch Dogs sniffing out hypocrisy, corruption, and injustice, not the political party's Lap Dogs guarding the status quo.

Tom's Fork
06/04/10, 05:35 am
Amen, brothers and sisters! V is preaching in my voice!

I missed this particular new rule, but Maher has it right. I have been annoyed for years by CNN's telling both "sides" of the story, when one side is obviously crap, and has been repeated over and again. V, you mentioned that evolution is only a theory. You got that right! It's only a theory! And the next time some low-browed Neanderthal wannabe throws that at you, you may suggest that, since it's only a theory, he can prove his Neanderthal disbelief in theory by doing the following:

(1) Stick his tongue in a plugged-in, turned-on light socket. He has no fear of electricity, because it's only the theory of electromagnetism!

(2) Jump off a very tall building - so who's afraid of the theory of gravity, anyway?

(3) Get a blood transfusion from an AIDS sufferer. Damn that germ theory of disease, yes!

(4) Stand at ground zero when the President presses the Button. Atomic theory? Bah!

I could go on, of course, but what's the use? There are those for whom reason is anathema, for whom belief is all important and knowlege is the enemy. I quoted here on this site, a coupla-three days ago, something Machiavelli wrote to the Prince:

Minds are of three kinds: one is capable of thinking for itself; another is able to understand the thinking of others; and a third can neither think for itself nor understand the thinking of others. The first is of the highest excellence, the second is excellent, and the third is worthless.

These people can neither think for themselves, nor can they understand the thinking of others, nor their theories. So why does CNN, and the mainstream media, pay any attention to them? Why has Katie Couric referenced things that Rush Limbaugh has said? Does anyone care, besides the weak-minded fools who watch Fox News?

"Yes, Mr. Hitler, and can you explain to our audience your views on the Jewish problem? Do you think Auschwitz really will solve the problem?"

Magi2
06/04/10, 10:10 am
:thumbup::thumbup::sunny:

-V-
06/04/10, 11:31 pm
yes, Tom, i'd love for the standard response to someone saying evolution is just a theory to be:

"so is god and gravity, why don't you say a prayer and jump off a building. If you don't fall to your death, we'll know God is real, if you do, we'll know gravity is real and only you'll know whether God is real or just not listening"

In the news the day after this thread was posted:

An Arizona elementary school mural featuring the faces of kids who attend the school has been the subject of constant daytime drive-by racist screaming, from adults, as well as a radio talk-show campaign (by an actual city councilman, who has an AM talk-radio show) to remove the black student's face, and now the school principal has ordered the faces of the Latino and Black students to be changed to Caucasian skin.

Richard Lawson's reaction, at Gawker

there are no "two sides to this story." This is not something you need to have a panel discussion about. CNN, I don't want to see you plumbing the depths of your counterintuition on your website, or lending credence to the notion that the gutless mopes in their cars, shrieking racial slurs at the images of children have an interesting point of view that we should "hear out" because of the need to be "balanced." This is your moment to decry, condemn, and brutalize these evil people.

Tom's Fork
06/06/10, 05:32 am
The Panda's Thumb (http://pandasthumb.org/)is a website dedicated to anti-creationism. Always something interesting going. And always thought-provoking and stimulating. By-the-bye, I doubt they would be allowed time on CNN, since they make no effort to be "balanced."

Jennifer_SFBA
06/06/10, 03:08 pm
Quantum physics and Consciousness (Conscious Intention)

A research paper on human levitation in the Australian Journal of Parapsychology 2006, Volume 6, Number 1, pp. 21-34

p 21, Human Levitation by SIMON HARVEY-WILSON from a social science perspective, Perth Australia:

http://www.aiprinc.org/para-c04_Harvey-Wilson_2006.pdf

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