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Associated Press outlines Bush during the crisis:

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The mistakes have come one upon the other.

Even as Katrina was bearing down on the Gulf Coast that Sunday night and early Monday, Aug. 28-29, and the National Hurricane Center was warning of growing danger, the White House didn't alter the president's plans to fly from his Texas ranch to the West to promote a new Medicare prescription drug benefit.

By the time Bush landed in Arizona that Monday, the storm was unleashing its fury on Louisiana and Mississippi. The president inserted into his speech only a brief promise of prayers and federal help.

He continued his schedule in California, and he didn't decide until the next day that he should return to Washington. But it took him another day to get there, as he flew back to Texas to spend another night at his home before leaving for the White House.

Once the president was in Washington, the criticism only intensified.

While a drowned New Orleans descended into lawless misery, Bush delivered remarks from the Rose Garden that were seen as flat and corporate. It was a sharp contrast to the commanding, empathetic president the public rallied around in the days after the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks.

In a television interview, Bush said — mistakenly — that nobody anticipated the breach of the levees in a serious storm.

Even Monday's trip to the region was a redo, hurriedly arranged by the White House over the weekend after lukewarm response to Bush's first in-person visit to the Gulf Coast last Friday.

Bush had raised eyebrows on his first trip by, among other things, picking Sen. Trent Lott (news, bio, voting record), R-Miss. — instead of the thousands of mostly poor and black storm victims — as an example of loss. "Out of the rubbles of Trent Lott's house — he's lost his entire house — there's going to be a fantastic house. And I'm looking forward to sitting on the porch," Bush said with a laugh from an airplane hangar in Mobile, Ala.

In the same remarks, Bush gave FEMA chief Brown — the face for many of the inadequate federal response — a hearty endorsement. "Brownie, you're doing a heck of a job," Bush said.

Later in Biloxi, Miss., Bush tried to comfort two stunned women wandering their neighborhood clutching Hefty bags, looking in vain for something to salvage from the rubble of their home. He kept insisting they could find help at a Salvation Army center down the street, even after another bystander had informed him it had been destroyed.

And at his last stop that day, at the airport outside of New Orleans, Bush lauded the increasingly desperate city as a great town because he used go there and "enjoy myself — occasionally too much."

Unlike his galvanizing appearance in the rubble of the World Trade Center just days after the 2001 attacks, Bush has stayed far from the epicenter of New Orleans' suffering. His only foray into the city was to its edges to watch crews plugging one of the breached levees on Friday.

On Monday, he skipped the hardest-hit coastal areas entirely, choosing instead to visit Baton Rouge, the state capital about 80 miles northwest of New Orleans, which sustained no damage. He also went to Poplarville, Miss., to walk the streets of a middle-class neighborhood that seemed to suffer little more than snapped trees, a couple off-kilter carport roofs and a downed power line or two.
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but not to worry. Leadership is at hand. Bush just announced today that he would lead an investigation into the mistakes that contributed to the disaster

[gratelady1]

Bush completely disrespected the Lousiana Governer (Blanco), because she was a "She" and had the nerve to be "Democrat". If she did not ask for something exactly as it was supposed to be, with all "t's" crossed and all "I"'s dotted, she was only going to get in more trouble. Still think the Facist Pig, Neo-nazi, neo-com, communististic- paranoid-schitzo, socio-path, gives a damn about someone outside his political party, gender and race is going to get a dime from him?

Scotty!! im still waiting- beam me up NOW!!!!!

[snowdog]

well, yea GWB was running around. that is correct. what was it? 3 days
after GWB got off vacation, then the congress all came off there SUMMER
BREAK.

[Lionhearted]

I feel that we spend too much time castigating Bush for our country's recent misery. Were it not for his father and his father's connections, he would likely be stuck in some menial job living hand to mouth. Bush is simply an inarticulate, drunken cokehead of a spokesman for the cancer that is this administration, a symptom rather than the disease that is American politics.

[snowdog]

I feel that we spend too much time castigating Bush for our country's recent misery. Were it not for his father and his father's connections, he would likely be stuck in some menial job living hand to mouth. Bush is simply an inarticulate, drunken cokehead of a spokesman for the cancer that is this administration, a symptom rather than the disease that is American politics.

OK Lionheart, you got me curious I was under the impression that Mr. Bush
quit drinking years ago. I never heard of any charge about cocaine abuse.
Please inform. How many times did the people of Texas elect him as Governor?
How many times did the people of the US elect him as President? (3 if
you want to count the recount). let me guess... You have photos of
GWB drinking, or doing Coke.......right? But I guess you feel it makes you
sound cool, educated, and informed to make them accusations.

[Lionhearted]

No Snowjob, there are no photographs. Bush did a year of community service in one of the poorest sections of Houston TX in 1972. One book (granted written by an ex-felon) claims it was cocaine possesion, another book claims it was for drunken driving. Bush himself has admited to working there. It begs the question why the young rich plowboy er playboy would do charity work (and for a liberal inner-city charity at that) for the first and only time in his life. Bush himself has never directly denied cocaine use. To quote, "I could have passed the background check on the standards applied on the most stringent conditions when my dad was president of the United States - a 15-year period." This is odd because the background standards in his father's administration were different depending on the position and 15 years was not one of the standards. Depending on how you interpret this (i.e. when my dad was president, Jan 1989-Jan 1993) that could mean anytime from 1974 to 1978 or thereabouts, several years after whatever happened in 1972, happened. Also when the military started doing routine drug tests (which was around this same time frame) is when Bush skipped out on his physical which led to his suspension from flight duty. Bush has also refused to deny drug use prior to 1974, which would coincide with his time in the Guard. I personally first heard "rumors" of this drug use while he was the figurehead frontman for the Texas Rangers baseball team. Lots of smoke, no direct denials, must be a fire there huh?
I could tell you that I have never used drugs in my life but would you believe me? Would it be true? There is no arrest record, so it must be true, right?
Does he still imbibe? Don't know. However the man (who likes to tout his education) is so inarticulate something has affected his gray matter. There is a difference between being inarticulate and being a poor speaker. A poor speaker can at least form coherent sentences. We can talk of the drinking later if you desire.
By the way your sarcasm is almost as disgusting as your worship of the false idol that is George Bush.

[gratelady1]

I feel that we spend too much time castigating Bush for our country's recent misery. Were it not for his father and his father's connections, he would likely be stuck in some menial job living hand to mouth. Bush is simply an inarticulate, drunken cokehead of a spokesman for the cancer that is this administration, a symptom rather than the disease that is American politics.

I have to disagree with this conclusion, GWB is not a symptom- he is a catalyst; he allows those around him to feed off the U.S., much as warmth allows bacteria to better fester and grow, take away sunlight (Porpoganda-the consersvative talk shows- brainwashing- thus blinding the public's view) and it grows exponentially.

[snowdog]

No Snowjob, there are no photographs. Bush did a year of community service in one of the poorest sections of Houston TX in 1972. One book (granted written by an ex-felon) claims it was cocaine possesion, another book claims it was for drunken driving. Bush himself has admited to working there. It begs the question why the young rich plowboy er playboy would do charity work (and for a liberal inner-city charity at that) for the first and only time in his life. Bush himself has never directly denied cocaine use. To quote, "I could have passed the background check on the standards applied on the most stringent conditions when my dad was president of the United States - a 15-year period." This is odd because the background standards in his father's administration were different depending on the position and 15 years was not one of the standards. Depending on how you interpret this (i.e. when my dad was president, Jan 1989-Jan 1993) that could mean anytime from 1974 to 1978 or thereabouts, several years after whatever happened in 1972, happened. Also when the military started doing routine drug tests (which was around this same time frame) is when Bush skipped out on his physical which led to his suspension from flight duty. Bush has also refused to deny drug use prior to 1974, which would coincide with his time in the Guard. I personally first heard "rumors" of this drug use while he was the figurehead frontman for the Texas Rangers baseball team. Lots of smoke, no direct denials, must be a fire there huh?
I could tell you that I have never used drugs in my life but would you believe me? Would it be true? There is no arrest record, so it must be true, right?
Does he still imbibe? Don't know. However the man (who likes to tout his education) is so inarticulate something has affected his gray matter. There is a difference between being inarticulate and being a poor speaker. A poor speaker can at least form coherent sentences. We can talk of the drinking later if you desire.
By the way your sarcasm is almost as disgusting as your worship of the false idol that is George Bush.

Tell you what Lionhart, why don't you keep digging, keep looking for dirt to
put on GWB, Hell I'm sure you'll find some. meanwhile the Big Red machine
will roll on.

LOL as for sarcasm, read your above post, then tell me about sarcasm.
You and thousands like you with your views lost GWB was elected. get
over it. theres always 08, but your so busy with the BUSH Bashing that
the next election will come and go. and you and your kind will lose the next
one too. spend your time/energy on the next election. A little help for you
GWB cannot be elected in 08. So trying to bring him down is a litte bit dumb
I would say. You are a riot.

[gratelady1]

Tell you what Lionhart, why don't you keep digging, keep looking for dirt to
put on GWB, Hell I'm sure you'll find some. meanwhile the Big Red machine
will roll on.

LOL as for sarcasm, read your above post, then tell me about sarcasm.
You and thousands like you with your views lost GWB was elected. get
over it. theres always 08, but your so busy with the BUSH Bashing that
the next election will come and go. and you and your kind will lose the next
one too. spend your time/energy on the next election. A little help for you
GWB cannot be elected in 08. So trying to bring him down is a litte bit dumb
I would say. You are a riot.

Finally some foresight- with this post you have gained a mound of respect from me SnowDAWG. You see- if it is irrational to argue about someone who is done politically, then it is also irrational to defend someone who History will decide if his presidency was adequate.

I ask you- why do you and Conservative radio talk show hosts and the media in general, spend so much time defending GWB?

I measure how bad GWB is doing, by how much time they (all the above) waste air-time on the dud. And lord knows they have wasted billions of dollars doing so- but what's your excuse?

[snowdog]

Finally some foresight- with this post you have gained a mound of respect from me SnowDAWG. You see- if it is irrational to argue about someone who is done politically, then it is also irrational to defend someone who History will decide if his presidency was adequate.

I ask you- why do you and Conservative radio talk show hosts and the media in general, spend so much time defending GWB?

I measure how bad GWB is doing, by how much time they (all the above) waste air-time on the dud. And lord knows they have wasted billions of dollars doing so- but what's your excuse?

I can't speak for radio talk show host as I don't agree with much any of them
say be it liberal, conservative, far-left, or far-right.

but the thing is why am I labled as defending GWB? because I initially supported
the war? because I ask a simple question as to why some people believe
that GWB doesn't care. I don't know why that is defending him. I merely asked
you and others to Defend your comments about GWB not caring. I haven't
heard one yet that makes any sense just an unbridled hate.

[gratelady1]

I can't speak for radio talk show host as I don't agree with much any of them
say be it liberal, conservative, far-left, or far-right.

but the thing is why am I labled as defending GWB? because I initially supported
the war? because I ask a simple question as to why some people believe
that GWB doesn't care. I don't know why that is defending him. I merely asked
you and others to Defend your comments about GWB not caring. I haven't
heard one yet that makes any sense just an unbridled hate.

So you would not catagorize the amount of disdain and contempt you have shown all over this forum with your rhetoric, as defending GWB? I ask you or anyone, to look back at all your posts and ask yourself what percentage of them are directly related to issues directly involved with criticism of GWB.

I have already explained to you that most posts are there (till -V- gets rid of them) for anyone and everyone to review- thus it is not hard to extrapulate what your conclusions are geared to. If not to defend poor georgy, it is to defend the conservative movement (exerting thier power?).

[snowdog]

So you would not catagorize the amount of disdain and contempt you have shown all over this forum with your rhetoric, as defending GWB? I ask you or anyone, to look back at all your posts and ask yourself what percentage of them are directly related to issues directly involved with criticism of GWB.

I have already explained to you that most posts are there (till -V- gets rid of them) for anyone and everyone to review- thus it is not hard to extrapulate what your conclusions are geared to. If not to defend poor georgy, it is to defend the conservative movement (exerting thier power?).


at this time I cannot defend GWB even IF I wanted to ...as I am too busy
mopping up the floor with your bizzare rantings.

[gratelady1]

at this time I cannot defend GWB even IF I wanted to ...as I am too busy
mopping up the floor with your bizzare rantings.

In that case, please keep mopping- at least you can claim that as a success. :D

[snowdog]

In that case, please keep mopping- at least you can claim that as a success. :D


however you feel you need to view the matter gratelady1 :)