[Jane of Arc]

War is big business in America. As a matter of fact, the manufacturing of weapons is America's biggest industry and America's biggest export.

But you won't hear much about this in the media, because the same corporations that have military "offense" contracts and build missles and bombs also own the major networks. Oh my.

If our number one export was cheese we'd be promoting cheese like there was no tomorrow. But, when you sell weapons you need a world of conflict in order to make a buck. No wonder Bush is out there with all his cowboy talk ... "dead or alive" ... "bring 'em on". No wonder he squandered the post 9-11 sympathy pouring out from the people of the world. He doesn't want that kind of world. The last thing the man wants is peace. What would America sell?

[gratelady1]

War is big business in America. As a matter of fact, the manufacturing of weapons is America's biggest industry and America's biggest export.

But you won't hear much about this in the media, because the same corporations that have military "offense" contracts and build missles and bombs also own the major networks. Oh my.

If our number one export was cheese we'd be promoting cheese like there was no tomorrow. But, when you sell weapons you need a world of conflict in order to make a buck. No wonder Bush is out there with all his cowboy talk ... "dead or alive" ... "bring 'em on". No wonder he squandered the post 9-11 sympathy pouring out from the people of the world. He doesn't want that kind of world. The last thing the man wants is peace. What would America sell?

To All Whom these Presents Greetings;

This is to certify,

that Gratelady1, representing the Institute of Progressive Intellectual Social Studies

has bestowed the certificate of

Graduate of Propoganda- with Magnum Cum Laude

on

WHAT

for the great post above

With all rights and previledges!

Pastheed note;
with presented research and supporting evidence- What can then go for his
Bachelors.

[Jane of Arc]

Gratelady1~

Why shucks ... thank ye ma'am! I appreciate the salutation! I got my Bachelor's quite a while ago ... I'm aiming for finishing a doctorate sometime in the future, if I can stay out of the friggin' political chat rooms!!! :eek:

[gratelady1]

Gratelady1~

Why shucks ... thank ye ma'am! I appreciate the salutation! I got my Bachelor's quite a while ago ... I'm aiming for finishing a doctorate sometime in the future, if I can stay out of the friggin' political chat rooms!!! :eek:

Does that mean we wont get the supporting evidence? :(

[Jane of Arc]

Oh gratelady1~ You would have to make me work! Here's a place to starthttp://worldpolicy.org/projects/arms/reports/wawjune2005.html#execsum


www.globalissues.org/Geopolitics/ArmsTrade/Spending.asp#USMilitarySpending


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Kaman
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Northrop Grumman Corporation
Raytheon Corporation

[Jane of Arc]

I'm not done with the post! I'll do more reseach tomorrow! :)

[MAGI]

I'm not done with the post! I'll do more reseach tomorrow! :)

Here's a hand:

What? mentioned the Carlyle Group of which I wrote WAY LONG AGO on this site, when grate lady was as active as now....guess it slipped the mind.. ALL the wonderfull CONSERVATIVES (including grate lady :D) so supportive of our uneducated young (troops), and U.S taxpayes (we middleclass people trying to hang on to what we earned!) in spite of ignorant voters............

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It is hard to imagine an address closer to the heart of American power. The offices of the Carlyle Group are on Pennsylvania Avenue in Washington DC, midway between the White House and the Capitol building, and within a stone's throw of the headquarters of the FBI and numerous government departments. The address reflects Carlyle's position at the very center of the Washington establishment, but amid the frenetic politicking that has occupied the higher reaches of that world in recent weeks, few have paid it much attention. Elsewhere, few have even heard of it...

But since the start of the "war on terrorism", the firm - unofficially valued at $13.5bn - has taken on an added significance. Carlyle has become the thread which indirectly links American military policy in Afghanistan to the personal financial fortunes of its celebrity employees, not least the current president's father. And, until earlier this month, Carlyle provided another curious link to the Afghan crisis: among the firm's multi-million-dollar investors were members of the family of Osama bin Laden More..."


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[Jane of Arc]

Does that mean we wont get the supporting evidence? :(

Gratelady1~

Thank you for "calling me" on this. My source is Noam Chomsky (who I think is brilliant). But this got me thinking. Too often in debate or in chat rooms we call something in print or something on TV "the truth", without our own research. And although I believe Mr. Chomsky's research, I wanted to see what I could discover on my own.

No easy task.

This helps to answers the question:

http://www.cdi.org/program/issue/document.cfm?DocumentID=3129&IssueID=85&StartRow=1&ListRows=10&appendURL=&Orderby=DateLastUpdated&ProgramID=73&issueID=85

Anyone who wants to join in the reseach I found a niffy tool:

http://www.gpoaccess.gov/fr/advanced.html

http://www.fas.org/asmp/

And important read on the subject:

http://www.worldpolicy.org/projects/arms/reports/wawjune2005.html

Suffice to say that the United States is the world's biggest manufacturer and exporter of weapons by far!