[Jane of Arc]

Just when I'm about to give up and shut up about stolen elections, voting fraud and the loss of American democracy ... something good happens and my belief in my fellow American is restored. I'm not alone. We're not alone. And democracy won't be snuffed out so easily.

Viewers (who favor any other news source but Fox) believe by as much as 70% that the 2004 Election was stolen.

http://www.opednews.com/

[MAGI]

So much evidence of corruption!

Tune into Ring of Fire, on http://www.airamericaradio.com/listen/ tomorrow, when Robert F Kennedy Jr. will feature Voting Corruption in 2004, if you wish to hear about the article below.

Stolen Election 2004 by Kennedy:

http://www.rollingstone.com/news/story/10432334/was_the_2004_election_stolen

Also this article on Buzzflash today:
June 2, 2006 GET BUZZFLASH ALERTS
CONTRIBUTOR ARCHIVES

How They Stole Ohio And the GOP 4-step Recipe to 'Blackwell' the USA in 2008 Abracadabra: Three Million Votes Vanish

AN EXCLUSIVE BUZZFLASH GUEST CONTRIBUTION
by Greg Palast

"Step 1: "Spoiling" ballots -- 1,389,231 of them. In the vote-count game, these are called "undervotes" and "overvotes." You can recognize these lost ballots by their hanging chads, punch cards without punches (an Ohio specialty), paper ballots eaten by scanners, and touch screens that didn't know you touched them.

Step 2: Rejecting "provisional ballots"-- 1,090,729 in this pile. Voters finding themselves at the "wrong" precinct, or wrongly "scrubbed" from voter rolls get these back-of-the-bus ballots first inaugurated in 2002. In '04, provisional ballots were passed out like candy to voters in the poorest precincts. They handed them out -- then threw them away -- one million dumped in all. In Ohio, Republican Secretary of State Kenneth Blackwell changed state rules, allowing him to toss out the ballots of legal voters who cast ballots in the wrong precinct although these citizens were told their vote would count after confirming their registration.

Step 3: Not counting absentee ballots -- 526,420 of them. At least, that's what we figure from official stats. But it's anyone's guess how many mailed-in votes were dumped. (However, in one case, in Palm Beach, Florida, Jeb Bush's candidate for Elections Supervisor, Theresa LaPore, counted more absentee votes than absentee ballots mailed in. Not the brightest bulb in the vote-fix biz, that Theresa.)

Step 4: Scrub'm, Purge'm, Block'm. These are the voters who never got to vote at all. This group includes those who found their registrations were never entered on the voter rolls. In Ohio, about one-fourth of those registered by Jesse Jackson's 2004 voter drive, found their registrations delayed beyond the election date or lost.

Add to this un-voter group, those who were wrongly "scrubbed" from registries as "felons." For example, there was Bernice Kines, purged in Florida in 2004 because she was convicted of a felony on July 31, 2009. I repeat: 2009. There was something especially odd about the Ohio felon purge: ex-cons are ALLOWED to vote in that state, Mr. Blackwell.

How many lost their chance to vote by scrubbing, purging and blocking? That's anyone's guess, but one million would not be an unfair estimate -- and that's not included in the 3.6 million tally of ballots uncounted.

Was it deliberate? Oh my God, yes. I'd like you to take a look at the "caging" lists the Republican National Committee concocted to challenge voters with "suspect" addresses. It included page after page of African-American soldiers, like one Randall Prausa, shipped overseas. Mission accomplished, Mr. President?

And there's some new tricks for these old dogs. "
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Lots more on the full article posted on the website above!

[Jane of Arc]

I was just going to post the brilliant RFK article in Rolling Stone ... and you beat me to it MAGI!!! Good for you dear! :thumbup: I suppose it won't hurt to post it again.

http://www.rollingstone.com/news/story/10432334/was_the_2004_election_stolen

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In what may be the single most astounding fact from the election, one in every four Ohio citizens who registered to vote in 2004 showed up at the polls only to discover that they were not listed on the rolls, thanks to GOP efforts to stem the unprecedented flood of Democrats eager to cast ballots.(14) And that doesn?t even take into account the troubling evidence of outright fraud, which indicates that upwards of 80,000 votes for Kerry were counted instead for Bush. That alone is a swing of more than 160,000 votes -- enough to have put John Kerry in the White House.

On the evening of the vote, reporters at each of the major networks were briefed by pollsters at 7:54 p.m. Kerry, they were informed, had an insurmountable lead and would win by a rout: at least 309 electoral votes to Bush's 174, with fifty-five too close to call.(28) In London, Prime Minister Tony Blair went to bed contemplating his relationship with President-elect Kerry.

As the last polling stations closed on the West Coast, exit polls showed Kerry ahead in ten of eleven battleground states -- including commanding leads in Ohio and Florida -- and winning by a million and a half votes nationally. The exit polls even showed Kerry breathing down Bush's neck in supposed GOP strongholds Virginia and North Carolina.(30) Against these numbers, the statistical likelihood of Bush winning was less than one in 450,000.(31) ''Either the exit polls, by and large, are completely wrong,'' a Fox News analyst declared, ''or George Bush loses.''32

Naively, I started reading the article and thought I could copy some of the more interesting portions -- but I was wrong. It's all good. And given the media's preference to scoff at election discrepencies, it is carefully annotated to show all of the sources.

It makes me want to grab a torch and march to Washington, with a stop over in Ohio first to pick up Blackwell.:angry:

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speaking of voter fraud, here's an item I was planning on posting today before I read the Kennedy article.

What's up with the Moveon.org poll released yesterday showing the results of their question for members to prioritize their agenda?

1. Health care for all 65091
2. Sustainable energy independence 61030
3. Restored constitutional rights ; 35675
4. Guaranteed accurate elections 35133
5. Diplomacy over militarism 28912
6. High quality education for all 27874
7. Solutions to global warming 26306
8. A guaranteed living wage 25527
9. Publicly funded elections 21096
10. A balanced federal budget 20945

Looks more like a Republican fix aimed at focusing the progressive's agenda on an issue that Hillary Clinton failed with 12 years ago. It's a valid goal but I put the election issues at 1 and 2 consider that without honest elections all of the other issues don't stand a chance:

From the same Kennedy article: The single greatest threat to our democracy is the insecurity of our voting system. If people lose faith that their votes are accurately and faithfully recorded, they will abandon the ballot box. Nothing less is at stake here than the entire idea of a government by the people. Voting, as Thomas Paine said, ''is the right upon which all other rights depend.'' Unless we ensure that right, everything else we hold dear is in jeopardy.

[Jane of Arc]

Excellent thought -V-. You know what I think, God knows. :D

I think the answer is that the Democrat leadership is non-existent, with the exception of just a few like Russ Feingold. The Democrats are part of the problem that needs to changed by We The People. They want their cushy jobs to continue so they suck up to the same corporate backers as the Republicans. Many say it's time for a third party. Oh, wait. Doesn't matter. The elections are fixed.

Who cares about We The People?

We have to.

It's time to take our country back.

It's time for liberals to take their country back.

It's time for conservatives to take their country back.

It's time for all Americans to take their country back.

[Jennifer_SFBA]

While we're working on solutions to illegal vote fraud and illegal vote process manipulation by election officials, please don't forget always to include in that discussion eliminating the Electoral College, basing elections on the will of the majority of the American people only by the popular vote. Dealing with that massive vote fraud and vote process manipulation will require new federal legislation, and elimination of the Electoral College needs to be included in the legislative bill(s) that address those problems that are truely destroying our democracy.

[Jennifer_SFBA]

This date I checked US Supreme Court cases for the status of Landes v Tartaglione Petition for Writ of Certiorari. Supreme Court
Docket No. 05-930 Writ of Certiorari denied March 27, 2006. That means new legislation would be required to gain rights petioned for.

http://www.supremecourtus.gov/docket/05-930.htm

See topic, "~An Amazing Woman Taking on the Supreme Court for the Right to Vote~" for the background story.
Jane of Arc

[Jennifer_SFBA]

Please see discussion in "MAIN room," "~ The New American Dictatorship ~" Jane of Arc

[Jennifer_SFBA]

The destruction of our democracy is intentional. See my post in the "New-Age room," "The Order of Skull & Bones." Protecting and expanding voting rights has got to be our #1 priority in America! Power to "We, the People" NOW!

[MAGI]

I'm hoping RFK JR.'s article in Rolling Stone magazine will GROW because so many citizens are STILL unaware of the 2000 & 2004 elections which were stolen by Rethuglicans! Electronic voting machines cannot assure our vote! e machines are easily corrupted as mony of us know WELL! There will NEVER be a way to secure e machines and should be OUTLAWED at once! There was enough hanky panky with tangible ballots as can be reviewed below. I only cite this again, and hope this most serious of problems becomes common front page news!

Today on Buzzflash alerts:

"June 5, 2006 GET BUZZFLASH ALERTS
CONTRIBUTOR ARCHIVES

Stand Up for Democracy With Robert F. Kennedy, Jr.

A BUZZFLASH GUEST CONTRIBUTION
by Thom Hartmann

[B]"The November, 2001, New York Times article went on to document how, in a statewide recount, there was no possible doubt that Al Gore won Florida in 2000:

"If all the ballots had been reviewed under any of seven single standards [all the ones that were used by either party], and combined with the results of an examination of overvotes, Mr. Gore would have won, by a very narrow margin. For example, using the most permissive ''dimpled chad'' standard, nearly 25,000 additional votes would have been reaped, yielding 644 net new votes for Mr. Gore and giving him a 107-vote victory margin. ...
"Using the most restrictive standard -- the fully punched ballot card -- 5,252 new votes would have been added to the Florida total, producing a net gain of 652 votes for Mr. Gore, and a 115-vote victory margin.

"All the other combinations likewise produced additional votes for Mr. Gore, giving him a slight margin over Mr. Bush, when at least two of the three coders agreed."

And yet all of this information was buried well after the 17th paragraph of the story, which carried the baffling headline "Study of Disputed Florida Ballots Finds Justices Did Not Cast the Deciding Vote."

As Robert F. Kennedy Jr. pointed out to me in an interview on my radio program on June 2, the reason the Times chose to bury the lede of their story and instead imply in the headline and first few paragraphs that Bush had legitimately won the 2000 election was because just a month earlier the US had been struck on 9/11 and The Times' publisher didn't want to undermine the president's legitimacy in a time of national crisis.

, the Times' publisher and editors decided in November of 2001 that that wasn't a good time to reveal that Bush was an illegitimate president and that Al Gore actually had won the election, both by the majority vote and the electoral vote. (Although, to their credit, at least they reported that Gore got the most votes in Florida, as did The Washington Post, which also ran the story but buried it deep within an article that similarly seemed to imply Bush won legitimately. USA Today passed over it altogether, simply saying that Bush won.)

The big question for today is whether media history will repeat itself. Will the mainstream media do any first-source on-the-ground investigative reporting into the theft of the 2004 election, or simply treat it as a political "difference of opinion"? And if they do engage in the hard work of first-source reporting as the Times and their consortium did in 2001, and the results again come back that Bush is an illegitimate president, will they again bury that fact seventeen paragraphs into a story with a misleading headline and opening as they did when, in 2001, they counted the ballots and found that Al Gore got more votes than George W. Bush did in Florida?

So far, it seems that the mainstream media is going to pass on doing any of their own first-source reporting, while Kenneth Blackwell begins the process of destroying evidence, which he'll be legally authorized to do in the next few months.

For example, on Friday, June 3, 2006, CNN briefly interviewed Kennedy, but treated the story as a political one rather than an example of investigative reporting. Instead of interviewing Kennedy about the details and substance of the story, Wolf Blitzer had on with Kennedy the infamous Terry Holt, spokesman for the Bush/Cheney campaign and a likely co-conspirator in the crime, instead of an investigative reporter who had examined Kennedy's evidence. Just as when Holt was confronted by Anderson Cooper in August of 2004 about the administration's manipulation of terror alerts during the campaign, Holt similarly ridiculed the idea of Republican election crimes, and Blitzer didn't challenge him - or let Kennedy finish most of his sentences.

Three days after Kennedy's story broke in Rolling Stone, a Google news search shows no national "mainstream" media having picked up the story as a serious news report, or having done any follow-up reporting into the issues he raises whatsoever. An email reply from an editor at The Seattle Times, asking why they're not covering the story, is characteristic of the response from many other national newspapers: "We subscribe to many news services for our national and foreign coverage. However, Rolling Stone is not one of them."



Our national mega-corporate-owned media - now so driven by ad dollars that sensationalized "missing white girls" trump real news - will only respond if enough of us raise enough questions with their editors and writers. Or if more of our members of congress (you can call your congressperson or senator at 202 225-3121) - particularly the "media darlings" like Joe Biden and (gulp) Chuck Hagel, who are ubiquitous on the Sunday talking-head shows - begin to speak out with the rare courage Congressman John Conyers showed when he pursued his investigation despite a virtual news blackout from the mainstream media.

Let them know what you think. Democracy begins with you, after all. Tag - you're it!"

The whole article again:

http://www.buzzflash.com/contributors/06/06/con06223.html

[Jennifer_SFBA]

Please note that I moved "The Order Of Skull & Bones" to the "Darkroom" from the "New-Age room" for discussion, since that's the location where that topic fits in best on this site.

[MAGI]

It gets more sickening by the day knowing George W. bush & company NEVER WERE ELECTED in 2000 or 2004!

Knowing what the Rich And Powerfull have done to OUR country & OUR globe in less than 6 years!

More regurgitating news.................

http://www.bradblog.com/


Elizabeth Edwards Says John Argued To Count Ohio 2004 Vote: 'We Promised' He Said. Veep Candidate Quoted: 'We told these people that if they stood in line and fought for their right to vote, we would fight to have them counted. We promised.

'A Heartbreaking Excerpt From 'Saving Graces: Finding Solace and Strength From Friends and Strangers', due out next month
Guest blogged by Winter Patriot:

In a sidebar on the book-review "Edwards emerges from cancer with grace", The News & Observer's Rob Christensen quotes Elizabeth Edwards describing her husband John's side of a conversation with "unidentified individuals" …
I listened to John in the other room, arguing into a speakerphone that we could not concede until the votes [in Ohio] were counted. "We promised," he said. "We told these people that if they stood in line and fought for their right to vote, we would fight to have them counted. We promised."

NB: Elizabeth Edwards' book, "Saving Graces: Finding Solace and Strength From Friends and Strangers", is scheduled for publication September 26 by Broadway Books. Christensen reviewed an advance copy of uncorrected galley proofs.

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[Jane of Arc]

MAGI~ I heard through the grapevine right after election in 2004 that John Edwards was absolutely blown away and furious with Kerry's decision to concede immediately and that they fought for hours. Obviously Edwards wasn't filled in on the 'fix'. He didn't know until that moment he had been duped.

[MAGI]

Thanks Jane of Arc, I'm so glad to learn that!

Edwards was my choice for president and the more I learn about voting fraud .............even in the democratic presidential primary....................the more Skull & Bones Power makes sense!
What WAS IT with Kerry?............. :eek:

Thinking about it ALL being a possible conspiracy, boggles my mind!

I'm so grateful for the internet; finding people who care about our country and are willing to act. The Firedoglake group is amazing.........they are so into everything, even working hard in CT. for Ned Lamont!

I've got to believe things can't get much worse before we see "We The People" take charge!

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