[Jennifer_SFBA]

Aliens and UFOs were on Earth before Homosapiens Sapiens appeared. Religious texts from around the ancient world talk about them. Aliens interact with the people and governments on Earth today. Outside of religious texts, stories that were once thought to be only ancient folktales and myths are being revisited. That body of literature is yielding interesting information about aliens and their interactions with people of Earth both before and since post-deluvial times.

Extensive Summarian texts have been discovered and translated that contain a complete history of aliens and their purposes on Earth both before and after the Great Flood chronicled in the Christian Bible and in the even much more ancient Summarian texts. The author who has written most about the ancient Summarian text material is Zecharia Sitchin who was funded by Rockefeller Foundation grants to conduct his research resulting from the recommendation of Laurence Rockefeller himself.

Genetic engineering of Homosapiens Sapiens and of aliens too for the production of alien-human hybrid species is one great historical and present day result of alien interaction with people of Earth. Beyond that, Earth is a source of natural resources for aliens, that aliens utilize. It is estimated by some reseachers that perhaps as many as 10% of the people of Earth have had direct contact with aliens.

Some scientific researchers have hypothecized that aliens seen and experienced by people of Earth are interdimensional and not extraterrestrial. It appears, though, that at least some aliens are both interdimensional and extraterrestial as a result of evidence that has been able to be scientifically analyzed about UFOs and their "signatures" when they appear, move, and travel.

Zecharia Sitchin's books about extraterestrial gods "who from heaven to Earth came" are based on his translation of ancient texts, especially Summarian. I have read and highly recommend them all. Zecharia's work is stunning! There is a wealth of information on Zecharia Sitchin's personal website that is as follows:

http://www.sitchin.com/booklist.htm

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UFOs and aliens were on Earth before there was homosapiens sapiens (Please see Genesis Chapter 6 in the Christian Bible). "The Secret of Redgate", narrated by researcher, Jim Marrs, is about the recollections of a whole town's frequent encounters with UFOs and aliens in the rather large town of Red Deer, Montana. That DVD is both extraordinary and recommended.

The Secret of Redgate may be purchased on Jim Marrs' website, http://www.jimmarrs.com/

[-V-]

it is far more absurd to believe we are the only intelligent life forms in the universe than to believe aliens exist and some have the capability to visit our planet.

but there will always be the "the earth is flat until you prove otherwise" group of Regressive thinkers.

[Jennifer_SFBA]

Hi, -V-. Ya. Sad, but true. Keep smiling!

[Jennifer_SFBA]

The evidence is overwhelming that there are, and have been from earliest recorded history, aliens and alien craft here on Earth. Were there a civil legal trial (based on the preponderance of the evidence) applying the exact same modern rules of legal evidence that are used in all other civil trials in America for the purpose of deciding the matters of whether or not there are aliens, and whether or not aliens are communicating with human beings on Earth, with the defense positing that aliens do not exist and the prosecution arguing that aliens not only exist, but interact with people of Earth, the prosectution would win that case hands down, and flat out! That is a fact! The available multiple eye witness accounts alone would win the case, but there is physical evidence too in the form of alien implants found in many different places on people's body, traces left at sites where UFOs have landed, unaccounted for pregnancies and abortions, various types of unusual and permanent marks, including unaccounted for "scoop marks," on people's skin, huge amounts of glow residue on people's skin that show up under a black light and that cannot be washed off. There is more, and it's very interesting and exciting to find out about, and not only for the purpose of discovery, but because aliens affect our lives and planet, and those effects will have big and profound and lasting effects for our Earth's future.

[Jennifer_SFBA]

I was brought up in the Jehovah's Witnesses, and, almost miraculously, but thankfully, was never baptised. Jehovah's Witnesses study their version of the Christian Bible, the New World Translation incessantly and engage in Bible study 3 to 4 days per week. So, I read the Bible as a requirement of living life with my parents. When I left home, I began listening to folk music by Leonard Cohen, at least 2 songs of which that he wrote made me stop and really think about the "gods" and their purposes on Earth, The Story of Issac and Suzanne. Leonard reached me, and that's when I began researching the gods of the Christian Bible in earnest using many different sources to develop evidence about the gods of old.

Below are some of my conclusions based on my research and is some of my reasoning that came out of it:

1) Earth was originally a completely tropical planet, evidenced by the fossil record of dinosaurs and tropical plant life that spans our entire world and that scientists say began 248 million years ago. Scientists say 248 million years ago all life on Earth existed on 1 single land mass that was all bunched together and that they call Pangea.

2) A great cataclysm befell Earth that involved a collision of Earth with another planetary body. (Scientists say the Earth may have been smacked by an astroid.) Evidence for that is the "astroid" belt (So, I was thinking that if the belt out there is made up of astroids, maybe that thing that may have smacked Earth was a whole lot bigger than just an astroid.) and Earth's very ragged crust that stands in contrast to the relatively smooth planetary surfaces (not ragged, or jagged anyway, the way the Earth is) of the other planetary bodies in our solar system. If a person could hold Earth in a hand like holding a glass filled with water, tipped it upside down so all the water flowed out, then returned the Earth to its' original position, craters and basins and mountains would be observed such as those people see on other planets in our solar system, but in addition to those crators and basins and mountains, a huge ragged landscape would also be evident unlike the other planetary bodies in our solar system.

3) The climate of Earth changed from tropical to freezing almost instantaneously. The temperature of deep space, reported by NASA, is minus 450 degrees Farenheit. Scientists believe the Age of the Dinosaur ended 65 million years ago, and one modern scientific hypothesis is that Earth's temperature "changed" thereby causing that extinction. Yes, that's what I think happened, and HOW!, causing dinosaurs to become deep frozen due to the effect on Earth's protective atmosphere by that collision that spun Earth out of its' orbit in a way that animal tissue being immersed in liquid nitrogen today might do the trick!

[Jennifer_SFBA]

4) Understood from Genesis Chapter 6 and story of Adam and Eve elsewhere in Genesis - The Elohim (with the meaning " the gods," plural) "genetically" created the first human beings on Earth (the symbol of the entwined serpents, the DNA molocule, that sybolizes medicine today). Before there were human beings on Earth though, for animal (and any other humanoid) life that was on Earth at that time, many reptilian species predominated. So, if science is right and the age of the (reptilian) dinosaurs ended 65 million years ago, then, that's when the great collision of planetary bodies occured that left Earth, as the Christian Bible descibes it, "formless and waste." I can imagine that event would certainly have left quite some mess. In the Genesis story of Adam and Eve, it says that the "serpent" (reptilian) "deceived" Eve (had sexual relations with Eve) causing, thereby, the fall (genetic fall) of humankind. For doing that, from Genesis Chapter 6, the "sons of God" for taking for themselves wives, as many as they chose, from the daughters of men, were thrown out of heaven to Earth. I say this: Earth was a predominately reptilian planet prior to that cataclysm 65 million years ago. The dominate species of Earth (inasmuch as Earth was a reptilian planet then) was reptilian humanoid aliens, and Earth had been their undisputed reptilian planet up until that time. Then, Earth was made formless and waste by that collision of planetary bodies, and Earth was left in a different, (colder) orbit around the sun. Because Earth was left colder, much colder, Earth was no longer so suitable anymore for reptilian life, but was rather well suited for warm blooded mamalian life. Well, a meeting or meetings ensued between the original reptilian alien leaders of Earth and the Elohim to decide what should best be done on Earth given the reality of Earth's condition. The upshot of the meeting or meetings was that Earth would become a predominately mamalian planet with a new, (to be genetically created) dominate mamalian species; Homosapiens. Though they agreed, privately, some of the original reptilian leaders of Earth hoped for failure of the Elohim's mamalian plan for Earth. But then, when they saw that the Elohim's plan was destined to become a great success, they re-asserted their claim to Earth as "their reptilian planet" by inserting their reptillian alien genes into the new mamalian species the Elohim created, Homosapiens. How else is it that mamalian human beings today have a "reptilian part of their brain," the most primitive part of the human brain having to do with fight or flight, sexual agression, etc.? In Genesis Chapter 6 of the Christian Bible, it says Noah was saved from the Great Flood because "Noah was pure in his generations," genetically pure. Christ Jesus was the Elohim's genetic recreation of the way human beings' genetics had originally been designed and intended for all of humankind, hence, by way of genetic engineering, a virgin birth and, therefore, the need for the appearance of angels to Joseph who, because of his advanced age, "knew" the child could not possibly be of his blood.

There is more to the story, the 3 temptations (direct confrontations) of Christ and their meaning, etc., but, because of the time, that's where I'll leave it for now. Interesting; hey, what,? and important for the context of aliens' interactions with people of Earth today? A dispute among aliens, but not just any dispute, is involved. How will their dispute end, and what shall be the disposition of humankind who is genetically part the intention of the Elohim and also genetically part reptilian alien?

[Jennifer_SFBA]

According to the visions of John written in the Christian (Gideon) Bible in Revelation 12:7 in part through 13 it says, "... (Dragon is a reptilian alien reference connoting "leader") And there was a war in heaven; Michael and his angels fought against the dragon; and the dragon fought and his angels. And prevailed not; niether was their place found anymore in heaven. And the Great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world; he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him. And I heard a loud voice saying in heaven, Now is come salvation, and strength, and the kingdom of our God, and the power of his Christ; for the accuser of our brethren is cast down, which accused them before our God day and night. And they overcame him by the blood of the lamb, (blood sacrifice is part of Satanic rituals to show loyalty, subservience and honor to Satan and material gifts that Satan bestows upon his followers) [Note how often Bush has used the terms "honor" and "sacrifices" in relation to wars in which soldiers have died for "god" and "country."] ("The blood of the lamb" is NOT of that context, but is related to the meaning of the context, and as an innocent victim.) and by the word of their testimony; and they loved not their lives unto death. Therefore rejoice, ye heavens, "AND YE WHO DWELL IN THEM." Woe to the inhabitants of the earth and of the sea! For the devil is come down unto you, having great wrath, because he knoweth that he hath but a short time. And when the dragon saw that he was cast into the earth, he persecuted the woman who brought forth the man child."

Dragon images and images of gargoyles are commonly seen on ancient shields of battle, in stautary on and around churches and government buildings and palaces of royalty.

So where do reptillian aliens on Earth reside?; far underground and far underwater in the oceans of our world. There are extensive, enormous ancient tunnels carved downward that traverse from the high Andes Mountains with many branches and that go on and on for many many miles down, down, underground. UFOs have been observed goin into and coming out of earth's oceans.

[Jennifer_SFBA]

Thank you, James, for expressing the difference between behavior of human beings attributable to strong repitilian alien genetics and those not so affected, or whose genetic effects has been masked by genetic alterations of human beings by aliens who were, in the Christian Bible, referred to as the Elohim. Reptilian aliens and Elohim are still today conducting the genetics war that's been on-going since the first repitilian insurection that was recorded in Genesis Chapter 6 of the Christian Bible. The outcome of that genetics war between the alien groups and factions is very important ultimately for the future of humanty and for our Earth.


Die-hard Bush supporters are, understandably, becoming more shrill, hostile and irrrational as the flaws, failings & fabrications of their politicians and positions become ever more evident to the awakening American public.

In the end, it's the same classic human struggle between
- peace & violence
- selflessness & greed
- compassion and callousness
- gentility & cruelty
- respect for all humankind & those that embrace tribalism
- justice for all & privilege for the few

The few remaining "Bush people" are on the wrong side of all of the above.
They are, by their nature, narrow, selfish & brutal.
They see their heartlessness as "strength" and would, therefore, turn the world into "a jungle" governed by jungle law.
The emergence of civilized, enlightened citizens threatens them by contrast & comparison.... and they become incensed. In their small jungle minds....everyone is really like them - merely "pretending" to be different.... the "pretenders" are hypocrites.

Anyone who fails to commit, condone or embrace selfishness, violence and jungle-law is simply "naive".

[Jennifer_SFBA]

Many people say they are Christian, but the church and they make a mockery of the whole of Christ while preaching and doing the exact opposite of those things Christ himself did and taught. What is that, but the oppostite of Christ; and who is that who is the opposite of Christ?; the dragon, the serpent, the Devil, Satan, and his followers who lead people falsely and control Earth.

Christian churches make much of physically dead Jesus, going so far as to have full-life or larger than life representations of the bloodied and lifeless body of Christ hanging limp on a cross for his "sacrifice," but little of the live Jesus of the spirit that yet may live in everyone on our one Earth.

An appreciative thought from me too to Leonard Cohen for his song, "Suzanne."

The following words of Christ are called commonly the "Be" attitutudes:

Christ said and taught multitudes who had come to him up into a mountain after he was set; Mathew Chapter 5 through Mathew Chapter 8;

in part, "Blessed are the meek, for they shall inherit the earth."

... "Blessed are the merciful; for they shall obtain mercy."

... "Blessed are the peacemakers, for they shall be called the children of God."

... "Let your light so shine before men, that they may see your good works, and glorify your Father which is in heaven."

... "Ye have heard that it was said by them of old time, Thou shalt not kill; and whosoever shall be in danger of the judgement: But I say unto you, That whosoever is angry with his brother without a cause shall be in danger of the judgement: and whosoever shall say to his brother, Raca (Raca in Aramaic means fool, emptyhead, etc. - insults), shall be in danger of the council; but whosoever shall say, Thou fool, shall be in danger of hell fire (loosing integrity, balance, spiritual connection, feeding the EGO and Edging God Out)."

... "Ye have heard that is has been said, An eye for an eye, and a tooth for a tooth: But I say unto you, That ye resist NOT evil; but whoever shall smite thee on thy right cheek, turn to him the other also. And whosoever shall compel thee to go a mile, go with him twain. Give to him that asketh thee, and from him that would borrow of thee turn NOT thou away. Ye have heard that it hath been said, Thou shalt love thy neighbor, and hate thine enemy. But I say unto you, Love your enemies, Bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you; That ye may be the children of your Father which is in heaven; for he maketh his sun to rise on the evil and on the good, and sendeth rain on the just and the unjust. For if ye love them which love you, what reward have ye? do not even the publicans the same? ... Be ye therefore perfect, even as your Father which is in heaven is perfect." (Note that the Christian churches teaches, "Ye are all sinners.")

... "But thou, when thou prayest, enter into thy closet, and when thou hast shut the door, pray to thy Father which is in secret; and they Father which seeth in secret shall reward thee openly. But when ye pray, use NOT vain repetitions (the rosary, speaking in toungs) as the heathen do; for they think that they shall be heard for their much speaking. Ne not therefore like unto them: for your Father knoweth what things ye have need of, before ye ask him. (Christ taught the "Our Father" prayer as a connection to God's mindful intention for the people of Earth and as a way of life.)"

... "Lay NOT up for yourselves treasures upon Earth, where moth and rust doth corrupt, and where thieves break through and steal: But lay up for yourselves treasures in heaven, where niether moth nor rust doth corrupt, and where thieves do NOT break through and steal. For where your treasure is there will be your heart also. The light of the body is in the eye; if therefore thine eye be single (focused) thy whole body shall be full of light. But if thine eye be evil, thy whole body shall be full of darkness. If therefore the light that is in thee be darkness, how great is that darkness! No man can serve two masters; for either he will hate the one, and love the other; or else he will holod to the one, and despise the other. Ye cannot serve God and mammon (anything that draws people away by way of focusing on, or desiring those things that are NOT the things Christ is emphacizing in his teaching here.) Therefore I say unto you, Take NOT thought for your life, what ye shall eat, or what ye shall drink; nor yet for your body, what ye shall put on. Is not the life more than meat, and the body more than raiment (clothing)? ... Behold the fouls of the air; for they sow NOT, neither do they reap, nor gather into barns; yet your heavenly Father feedeth them. ... And why take ye thought for raiment? Consider the lillies of the field, how they grow; they toil NOT, neither do they spin: And yetr I ay unto you, That even (King) Solomon (Solomon's Temple) in all his glory was NOT arrayed like one of these. Wherefore, if God so clothe the grass of the field, which today is and tomorrow is cast into the oven, shall he not much more clothe you, O ye of little faith? Therefore, take no thought, saying, What shall we eat? or, What shall we drink? or Wherewithal shall we be clothed? for your heavenly Father knoweth that ye have need of these things. But seek ye first the kingdom of God, and his righteousness; and all these things shall be added unto you. Take therefore no thought for the morrow: for the morrow shall take thought for the things of itself. Sufficient unto the day is the evil therein."

... "And it came to pass, when Jesus had ended these sayings, the people were astonished at his doctrine. For he taught them as one having authority, and NOT as the scribes."

[Jennifer_SFBA]

On Zecharia Sitchin's website it says, among many other things, the following:

http://www.sitchin.com/index.htm


We now know that the biblical deluge tale came from earlier sources - the writings of the Sumerian civilization that blossomed out in Mesopotamia (mostly today’s Iraq) some 6,000 years ago. In that tale it is one god, Enlil, who seeks Mankind’s demise, and another (Enki) who devises the rescue plan. The latter was the Mesopotamian god of science, a great biologist who was involved in genetically upgrading Homo erectus to Homo sapiens. And what did be provide to Noah to take aboard to save animal and crop life? The Sumerian text clearly answers: the “Seed of Life,” the DNA of animals and crops not the animals as such!

Zecharia is saying there that the last Great Flood, the one told about in the Christian Bible, occurred about 6,000 years ago. Zecharia is attributing the saving of Noah to Enki, the biologist, who is prominantly represented in the Summarian text material that he translated. According to Zecharia, both Enki and his brother Enlil were of the Annunaki, a reptialian alien species. There may or may not be a conflict between what Zecharia is saying and what the Christian Bible says about the reason Noah and Noah's seed was saved from the Great Flood, that Noah, as expressed in the Christian Bible, was "pure in his generations," genetically pure, and, presumably, free of repitilian genetics. I point it out as a note of caution about any friendlier view of repitilian aliens than is factually deserved by anyone including Zecharia. The Christian Bible discusses reptilian aliens who were cast down out of the heavens to the Earth and who are being kept here on Earth and who are not permitted to leave Earth for having taken part in that "genetic" insurrection against the Elohim. It should be noted that many reptilian aliens did not revolt, but were in agreement with and were actually a part of the Elohim who first "genetically" created Homosapiens. It could be that both Enki and Enlil were of that later mind.

One area where Zecharia Sitchin's work shines, I think, is in the evident alien artifacts that he shows pictures of in his books and that he, personally, has been to see along with the Summarian stories he tells based on his translations of the Summarian text material.

[Jennifer_SFBA]

I have frequently referenced the Elohim, but have not until now named any of them. Alien types that have been seen most frequently by people of Earth are as follows:

The Plejaran (Pleadians) stand more than six feet tall, have blond hair and blue eyes, are perfectly beautiful in body and spirit, possess great intellect, have a good sense of humor and generally communicate telepathicly, though not exclusively.

The insectoid appearing mantis beings stand six to eight feet tall and look very much like, and articulate like, the preying mantis insects we see here on Earth. The mantis are excedingly intelligent, are highly telepathic and have a great capacity for the human emotion of love. Mantis beings may engage in something like that mind meld that Mr. Spock on the Star Trek television series used to do but without having to make actual physical contact with the being they will communicate with. The Mantis make telepathic contact through the eyes with the result that every experience and emotion is able to be selectively transferred in both directions, a sharing of experiences and the emotion that goes along with them. The mantis transfer and thereby keep their entire species history in that way. Mantis genetically created the mantis insect we have on Earth as a miniature image of themsleves, a reminder they were here and were participants in the recreation of life on Earth.

Reptilian aliens are of many different types. There are the short, about four foot tall, so called Grays; the foot or so taller, so called Tans that have longish pointed ears, to the very tall, 10 to 14 foot, heavy bodied, humanoid reptillian aliens that have large vertical slit eyes with a third eye and an eye lid over it that is most often closed over that eye that is in the center, with four or more foreshortened horns on their heads, a tail and that have a rainbow like scaly skin and sharp teeth. Those latter reptilian aliens are able to shape shift, to appear and disappear interdimentionally and are highly telepathic. Using their middle eye, those reptillian aliens are capable of immobilizing a human being. Note that not all reptilian aliens were involved in that genetic insurection and that only those who did participate in it were cast out of heaven to Earth.

There is a very beefy, shiney black skinned alien type who possess a prominant brow ridge and have a thick skinned furrowed forehead and large verticle slit eyes. They have been observed wearing a black one piece cape with a two-pointed hood.

At least one government insider who has come forward as part of the "Disclosure Project" said that he read a government report that had in it catalogued descriptions of more than 200 alien species who visit Earth. I have discussed only those alien types that have most commonly been reported by human contactees and experiencers. If you have more to add to the list, would you please contribute what you have so that we may better understand aliens on Earth?

[Jennifer_SFBA]

Aliens too believe in God and refer to God as "The Source," not as a single being, on which point I have always agreed. The fallen angels, the ones that were thrown out of heaven and down to the Earth by the Elohim, were the ones who demanded people worship them and on pain of death. Aliens do have a hirachical order and participate in a Galactic Council. They do not want human beings, in our present state, in space. They do want human beings on Earth today to do everything possible to solve Earth's poor envirnonmental condition. Aliens say, "Your Earth is dieing."

[Jennifer_SFBA]

The timeline for when the Elohim first began their re-creation project on Earth is not determined. Nor is it known how long it took for Earth to settle into and aclimate to its' new orbit after that collision of planetary bodies about 65 million years ago before the re-creation of Earth was able to begin. Anthropologists say Homo habilis appeared about 2.3 Million years ago and that Homo erecus first appeared about 1.8 to 1.6 million years ago, dieing out and being replaced by Homo sapiens about 500 thousand to 300 thousand years ago.

Zecharia Sitchin's translation of the Summarian texts describes the following that stands in what at first appears to be opposition to the Christian Bible's version of the creation of Homo sapiens, but, then, perhaps not:



It was here, in tracing the vertical evolutionary record contained in the human and the other analyzed genomes, that the scientists ran into an enigma. The “head-scratching discovery by the public consortium,” as Science termed it, was that the human genome contains 223 genes that do not have the required predecessors on the genomic evolutionary tree.

How did Man acquire such a bunch of enigmatic genes?

In the evolutionary progression from bacteria to invertebrates (such as the lineages of yeast, worms, flies or mustard weed – which have been deciphered) to vertebrates (mice, chimpanzees) and finally modern humans, these 223 genes are completely missing in the invertebrate phase. Therefore, the scientists can explain their presence in the human genome by a “rather recent” (in evolutionary time scales) “probable horizontal transfer from bacteria.”

In other words: At a relatively recent time as Evolution goes, modern humans acquired an extra 223 genes not through gradual evolution, not vertically on the Tree of Life, but horizontally, as a sideways insertion of genetic material from bacteria… (present day scientific hypothesis)

They know that the biblical verses dealing with the fashioning of The Adam are condensed renderings of much much more detailed Sumerian and Akkadian texts, found inscribed on clay tablets, in which the role of the Elohim in Genesis is performed by the Anunnaki – “Those Who From Heaven to Earth Came.”

As detailed in my books, beginning with The 12th Planet (1976) and even more so in Genesis Revisited and The Cosmic Code, the Anunnaki came to Earth some 450,000 years ago from the planet Nibiru – a member of our own solar system whose great orbit brings it to our part of the heavens once every 3,600 years. They came here in need of gold, with which to protect their dwindling atmosphere. Exhausted and in need of help in mining the gold, their chief scientist Enki suggested that they use their genetic knowledge to create the needed Primitive Workers. When the other leaders of the Anunnaki asked: How can you create a new being? He answered:

"The being that we need already exists;
all that we have to do is put our mark on it.”

The time was some 300,000 years ago.What he had in mind was to upgrade genetically the existing hominids, who were already on Earth through Evolution, by adding some of the genes of the more advanced Anunnaki. That the Anunnaki, who could already travel in space 450,000 years ago, possessed the genomic science (whose threshold we have now reached) is clear not only from the actual texts but also from numerous depictions in which the double-helix of the DNA is rendered as Entwined Serpents (a symbol still used for medicine and healing) -- see illustration ‘A’ below.

When the leaders of the Anunnaki approved the project (as echoed in the biblical ”Let us fashion the Adam”), Enki with the help of Ninharsag, the Chief Medical Officer of the Anunnaki, embarked on a process of genetic engineering, by adding and combining genes of the Anunnaki with those of the already-existing hominids.

When, after much trial and error breathtakingly described and recorded in antiquity, a “perfect model” was attained, Ninharsag held him up and shouted: “My hands have made it!” An ancient artist depicted the scene on a cylinder seal (illustration ‘B’).

And that, I suggest, is how we had come to possess the unique extra genes. It was in the image of the Anunnaki, not of bacteria, that Adam and Eve were fashioned.

Perhaps the answer is that both the Elohim and the Annunaki were engaged in the genetic engineering of Homo sapiens, but for different purposes and with different genetic results and outcomes. Genetic engineering of human beings is actually the very thing that is ocurring today by Elohim aliens and reptilian aliens.

[Jennifer_SFBA]

The website where Zecharia Sitchin posted the material I quoted from him above is as follows:

http://www.sitchin.com/adam.htm

[Jennifer_SFBA]

I wonder, is Earth due for another great cataclysmic event soon? Is a great hyperdimensional stargate about to open at the same time that the hyperdimensional physics involved in that opening may wreck havoc with our physical world? Are aliens intending to place a new hybridized, at least partly human, species on Earth following some soon expected cyclical cataclysmic celestial event? Why does the Mayan calendar end at 2012? Why does the Great Pyramid in Egypt that points to the star Sirius end calendracally at that same date, 2012? What is it that governments of the world have been preparing for that they've been building great housing facilities for the elite of this world far undergound? Why has the fight for political, governmental power been an all out battle, at any cost and at a fever pitch, since the elections in 2000 involving candidates who are in secret societies and who possess secret knowledge about the star Sirius that is a prominant feature in their rituals along with the other stars in the belt of the constellation Orion and that the Great Pyramid in Egypt points to?

[Jennifer_SFBA]

My research about the collision of celestial bodies that I had thought was the cause of the change of Eath's orbit about our sun was not extensive enough. Had I looked further I would have seen scientific evidence, since the year 2000, that there was a planet between Mars and Jupitor that it now appears litterally exploded. Evidence for that is that 90% of the astroid belt is located between Jupitor and Mars, there is observable blackened residue on astroids in the astroid belt, the Titius - Bode Law of Planetary Spacing is pattern incongruent between Jupitor and Mars and that the asteroid mass that was left behind in the wake of that planetary explosion is only 0.001 the mass of the Earth is accounted for by it's survivability due to it's low pressure crustal and upper mantal layers while that other 99% of the high temperature and high pressure mass that is missing is accounted for by its' sudden release into the cold vacuum of space where it "vaporized." What caused that planet to explode is involved with the hydimensional physics model that, it is now thought, involves that very dense star Sirius. There may have been a war too in the mix that triggered it.

An article about all that is very interesting and is here:

http://www.metaresearch.org/solar%20...ph/eph2000.asp

Still, I wonder at what sort of impact, physical and/or energy, it was that left Earth's crust so physically ragged and jagged if most of the mass of that planet that exploded instantaneously vaporized. Perhaps Earth's crust was ripped and torn open by an explosive impact that moved Earth's mantle violently. Is the time now ready for a cyclical repeat of another catastrophic event to occur with the star Sirius playing a prominant role? What role might directed conscious intention play in relation to that hyperdimensional energy physics model? Humankind's choices in the face of any catastrophic event may be people's willful intention to love or to allow themselves to be driven and governed and controlled by their emotion of fear.

[Michael DeM]

I've gotta admit, a lot of the stuff that JenniferSFBA has been saying in this thread is a little out there, but I do believe in extraterrestrials. Actually, I saw what I believe was a UFO about 6 or 7 years ago. It was nighttime;I looked up at the sky; and I saw a white, glowing, ovular-shaped object moving downward. It looked like it was crashing. I kept watching it, and it moved quickly downward until it went behind the trees in the distance and I couldn't see it any more. One thing I'd like to make mention of is that I've heard that most UFO sightings have been around military bases, and the one I saw fell into the vicinity of a local military base. I'm not going to say where it was for fear that I might get in trouble with the Pentagon or something, but my personal opinion is that the military has either developed these craft itself or has taken them from any aliens that have landed here. It's not something I give much thought to, but I just wanted to get that out if it helps any.

[Jennifer_SFBA]

Hi, Michael DeM. Thank you for your eyewitness account. The U.S. government has been tracking UFOs and shooting at UFOs from time to time since 1947. Some UFOs are most likely ours that have been back engineered since that time up to the present. There is a website full of eyewitness UFO reports at the following website:

http://www.ufocenter.com/

You might report your UFO sighting to Steven Davenport's UFO Center as well. Steven set that site up as an official civilian site to be used for UFO data gathering and research analysis.

It is also worthwhile to take a look at the Disclosure Project website where there are numerous reports by government insiders who have come forward to expose to the American people and the world our government's involvement with UFOs and aliens by telling their first hand, hands on, accounts of what they did and what they saw while employed by the United States government, from secret military programs to civilian air traffic control:

http://www.disclosureproject.org/

I will be seeing Dr. Steven Greer, the originator of the Disclosure Project, at the conference I will be attending at Mount Shasta, CA, July 7 - 9, 2006.

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So far I've concentrated my discussion of UFOs and aliens on biblical characterizations and accepted anthropological and biological scientific theory that, though it alludes to other dimentional realities, may have appeared to remain within the common worldview of existance in a universe inhabiting a three dimensional reality and that accepts time as being linear with a defined past, present and future. For any theory to be true, it has to encompass all observable phenomena. So now on to Jacques Vallee among others who discuss serious exceptions to the common world view in the context if UFOs and aliens and their existance in an interdimensional reality:

http://www.metroactive.com/papers/metro/05.04.05/alleys-0518.html



Silicon Alleys
Alien Notion

By Gary Singh

BESIDES being a successful Silicon Valley venture capitalist, Jacques Vallee has researched the UFO phenomenon perhaps more than any other person currently alive. He has written almost a dozen books on ufology, and he was the real-life model for the French UFO scientist in Close Encounters of the Third Kind. Vallee lives in San Francisco, but he recently infiltrated Silicon Valley to summarize his four decades of research in a public presentation at the Institute of Transpersonal Psychology in Palo Alto.

The reason Vallee has irked so many ardent UFO believers for decades is that he doesn't believe UFOs are nuts-and-bolts machines from outer space or spinning silver disks operated by aliens from another universe. Crudely simplified, he was the first scientist to suggest that UFO experiences are in fact interactions with interdimensional beings that have always existed among us—invisible hands toying with human society from a different level of consciousness. It's not just a physical phenomenon. It's a sociological, spiritual and psychic experience all wrapped up into one.

Vallee also suggested in several books that many of these so-called "abduction" tales are the result of manipulation, either by the government or the interdimensional beings themselves. Even though his work was documented in former Metro scribe Jonathan Vankin's 80 Greatest Conspiracies of All Time, Vallee has commanded a huge amount of respect over the years, even from UFO debunkers. As he's been quoted everywhere, "The UFO Phenomenon exists. It has been with us throughout history. It is physical in nature, and it remains unexplained in terms of contemporary science. It represents a level of consciousness that we have not yet recognized, and which is able to manipulate dimensions beyond time and space as we understand them. It affects our own consciousness in ways that we do not grasp fully, and it generally behaves as a control system." He has also theorized that UFO experiences echo those of traditional contact with nonhuman consciousness in the form of elves, fairies or demons throughout several cultures for millennia.

Since Vallee has spent decades filtering out the lunatic fringe on this matter, he didn't want any advance press about his lecture, and I went along with that. He understandably didn't want kooks with preconceived conclusions showing up and turning the whole presentation into a circus. Instead, he wanted to keep the lecture purely a scientific one.

So it only makes sense that the event was hosted by the Foundation for Mind-Being Research (FMBR), a 25-year-old Silicon Valley-based organization of scientists, engineers, spiritualists, artists, philosophers, psychics and psychologists devoted to establishing consciousness studies as a bona fide science. One of FMBR's main principles is that the four-dimensional space-time world of ordinary human experience may be inadequate to accommodate the physics of the mind sciences. Vallee's research throughout the last four decades intertwines with that theory.

"This lecture was an experiment," he explained via email afterward. "I am staying away from the media and public presentations because the field has become so polarized between different ideologies that anything I would say as a scientist would be lost in the noise. The FMBR group is unique because it is open-minded and understands the nature of research. Thus it provided an opportunity to test my current conclusions about the phenomenon before a responsive, yet critical audience."

In the presentation, he explained that the entire UFO discourse has degenerated into a confrontational and polarized situation between the hard-core skeptics and the extraterrestrial believers, and we need new radical hypotheses. So Vallee and others are going back underground and returning to the days of the Invisible College, the title of his 1975 book about a group of scientists researching UFOs while keeping their names and activities out of the press.

"The phenomenon presents great opportunities to learn about the world and human nature," he explained. "I continue to do research, but I do it with my own resources, in communication with a small network of scientists and investigators around the world. Good progress can be done this way, in an environment of trust rather than confrontation or hype."

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To follow up on Jacques Vallee's scientific approach to the UFO and alien phenomena, there are the following anomalies clearly observed here on Earth at the Skinwalker Ranch in Utah that were investigated in part by Colm Kelleher, Ph.D., Biology and George Knapp, Journalist:

http://www.huntfortheskinwalker.com/links.html

Read a blog about the Skinwalker Ranch at Rigorous Institution

Read George Knapp's Path of the Skinwalker articles in the Las Vegas Mercury: PART1.pdf | PART2.pdf | PART3.pdf



Following up on that observed phenomena, some official U.S. government documents showing the U.S. government's familiary with Jacques Vallees interdimentional hypothesis are available at the website below:

http://www.majesticdocuments.com/documents/1970-present.php



There is this too about a UFO, aliens and the third secret of Fatima:

http://www.earthfiles.com/news/news.cfm?ID=1113&category=Environment

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I found a very interesting website about UFOs and aliens and underground tunnels and bases, etc., though it lacks the scientific quality I look for. It's worth looking at anyway since some of it has value, I'm sure:

http://www.think-aboutit.com/

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Below is a website that is more the type I look for to research UFOs and aliens. There are quite a number of them around and more and more of them appearing all the time:

http://www.vgl.org/

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Another very important aspect of alien involvement with human genetics I've seen is as follows, and it does feel right to me:

http://www.ufos-aliens.co.uk/cosmicunder.html

Scroll down to "PROJECT BETA." The quote begins in the 18TH paragraph.


The studies on Level 4 include human-aura research, as well as all aspects of telepathy, hypnosis, and dreams. Thomas says that they know how to separate the bioplasmic body from the physical body to place an "alien entity" life-force-matrix within a human body after removing the "soul" lifeforce-matrix of the human.

Level 6 is privately called "Nightmare Hall." It holds the genetic labs, where experiments are done on fish, seals, birds, and mice that are vastly altered from their original form. There are multi-armed and multi-legged humans and several cages (and vats) of humanoid bat-like creatures as tall as 7-feet. The aliens have taught the humans a lot about genetics; things both useful and dangerous.

The Grey and reptoid species are highly analytical and technologically oriented. They have had ancient conflicts with the Nordic humans from other space societies, and may be staging here for a future conflict. Intensely into computing and bio-engineering sciences, they are led to doing reckless experiments without regard for what we consider to be ethical and empathetic conduct toward other living creatures.

Principal government organizations involved in mapping human genetics, the so-called genome projects, are within the Department of Energy (which has a heavy presence on the Nevada Test Site); the National Institute of Health; the National Science Foundation; the Howard Huges Medical Institute; and, of course, the Dulce Underground Labs which are run by the DOE. Thomas had revealed that the chief of the genetic experiments for Los Alamos and Dulce is Larry Deaven.

The Christian Bible and churches express concern about "possession." Jesus Christ, the Christian Bible says, cast out demons. The royal familes have a genetic code matrix that is as close to 50% human and 50% reptillian alien as possible (See Genesis Chapter 6 in the Christian Bible that discusses the Nephilim). The "curse" on royal families is possession made easier by that genetic code matrix that establishes reptillian aliens in royal seats of power as they will. The Bush family traces its' liniage to the royal Hapsburg line in Germany. John Kerry is a Bush cousin. They are both members of The Order of Skull & Bones.

The website in general is interesting:

http://www.ufos-aliens.co.uk/

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Here is another interesting website page to read that talks about brain implants and human mind control related to our government elite and the military base at Dulce, New Mexico supposedly written by someone who worked there:

http://www.ufos-aliens.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/dulce.html

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Gee, another UFOs and aliens scientific website with an outstanding board of directors membership that includes former U.S. astronaut, Edgar Mitchel, Ph.D; Physicist, Hal Puthoff, Ph.D, etc.:

http://www.nidsci.org/

There is this British computer hacker interview too that is interesting about what he saw on classified NASA and other U.S. government agency computers about UFOs and aliens:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/nolavconsole/ukfs_news/hi/newsid_4970000/newsid_4979700/bb_rm_4979716.stm

Below is a Coast to Coast AM radio interview between Art Bell and John Lear, Jr. that was about a suppositioned disclosure to the American public by the government of the United States of the existance of alien craft and alien beings on our panet, Earth:



John Lear's Disclosure Briefing
As presented on the 11/2/03 show:

Art Bell: Let's say the government chose me. They were going to use me as an outlet to release this information. Let's just say they did that and they took me to a briefing. Then what John?

John Lear: They whisk you to Washington, DC, you get limo-ed to this building, beautiful building, you go up into this room. They say, 'Art, you're the guy and if you give us the go ahead, we are gonna release everything we know to the public. If you decide to go ahead, all major networks will be provided with information on all aspects of the cover up and no type of information will be withheld. Because of the deal for immunity for all participants of the cover up provides that nothing, no artifacts, no piece of information be withheld.'

So here's what happened, Art. We'll use some videos and stills. Our first UFO recoveries were in the late '30s. We made a couple in the beginning of the '40s and then came Roswell, which the public found out about. We got 2 live aliens from Roswell. One died shortly there after and one lived till 1956. And we found out so far there are 18 different alien species that we know about monitoring Earth. Some are good and some are hostile, most are indifferent. We found out that we are the experimental product, if you will, of an alien race who we never met and we don't know who they are. All we know is that the Greys are cybernetic organisms, glorified robots if you will, who work here at the behest of their employers monitoring us through abductions. We were never able to find out what the experiment is all about except that we have been externally corrected about 65 times. And they, the aliens, refer to us as "Containers." There's been speculation that the souls our bodies contain is the reason for the experiments. But nothing's been proven or determined.

Since 1938 we've lost over 200 aircraft due to UFO hostilities and thousands of soldiers in all kinds of different actions with aliens. Since that time several hundred thousand civilians have disappeared with no trace. Several thousand of those were eliminated by us because of their chance encounters with the aliens which we could ill afford to have publicized.

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A slightly more frightening phenomena known as "human mutilations" have occurred on a regular basis and are similar to "cattle mutilations". In that the human or humans are taken from the street, so to speak, and returned to the same area about 45 minutes to an hour later with their rectums cored out, their genitals removed, eyes removed from their sockets, and completely drained of blood. In all cases it appeared that the mutilation procedures occurred while the persons were still alive and conscious. One of our scientists speculates that apparently the human specimens had to be alive for the samples to be worth anything. Abductions occur on a daily basis throughout the United States to at least 10% of the population.

When we were first made aware this we protested to the little grey being we had held in captivity at the YY-2 facility in Los Alamos, but a deal was struck that in exchange for advanced technology from the aliens we would allow them to abduct a very small number of persons and we would periodically be given a list of those persons abducted. We got something less than the technology we bargained for and found the abductions exceeded by a million fold than what we had naively agreed to.

In 1954, President Eisenhower met with a representative of another alien species at Muroc Test Center, which is now called Edwards Airforce Base. This alien suggested that they could help us get rid of the Greys but Eisenhower turned down their offer because they offered no technology.

At this point it became apparent to all involved that there was no such thing as a God, at least how the public perceives God. Certainly some form of computer recorder stores information and an occasional miracle is displayed by the aliens to influence a religious event. This so unnerved Eisenhower that he had "In God We Trust" put on paper money and coins and put in the Pledge of Allegiance to reaffirm the public belief in God. Shortly after this it was determined in meetings between the US and the Russians that the situation was serious enough that a cold war should be manufactured as a ruse to divert attention of the public away from UFOs towards some other scary threat like the H-bomb. It was also decided to keep the ruse secret from any elected or appointed officials within both the US and Russian governments as it took so long to vet these officials and the ruse was easier to manage if the top people didn't know about it.

In the late 1950's NASA was formed to compartmentalize, containerize, and sanitize information from all space platforms and vehicles. We sold NASA to the public claiming that all information would belong to them but they got very little and even that was highly sanitized.

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Our first efforts were to keep the public from learning about Venus. A very similar planet to Earth and it's population is very similar to us just technologically advanced. We have learned a lot from them starting with the Russian Venera 1 and US Mariner 2, we made Venus look like a lead melting, volcanic surface, spewing sulfuric acid into a pressurized atmosphere 90 times that of Earth. And as often the case we over did it and we wondered why nobody asked how a parachute survived a descent into 800-degree air. We set up operations in Pine Gap, Australia to preclude any prying eyes figuring out what we were up to. We regularly eliminated through extreme prejudice anybody who was part of the operation and made the least little tiny threat about disclosure or dissatisfaction with the operation. Any space mission that included Mercury, Gemini, Apollo, Mariner, Voyager, Clementine, and all the rest. All data initially came transmitted to Pine Gap then it was relayed to JPL or wherever after sanitizing. We had a little trouble with amateur radio operators but we figured out how they could intercept these signals but we managed to deal with that.

When the Russian threat began to fade we introduced Vietnam which kept the public occupied for over ten years. The cover up and personnel to run the operation began to get bigger and bigger and required more and more money. We were forced to inflate the defense budget, which soon not enough. Then we got into the drug business which was still not enough. We were the ones that looted the savings and loan industry and Wall Street to boot. It is so out of control now most people want immunity and want out. But there is so much secrecy and so many double and triple blinds in place that it's unlikely that this thing can ever be dismantled. And even if you give us the go ahead to spill the beans to the public it's unlikely they will get anything more than "yes, we recovered a flying saucer and yes, there was an occupant" but that's all we're gonna tell ya. (Oliver North never went to prison though caught red handed with secret Swiss bank account numbers. During the Viet Nam war it was reported by the press that the CIA few hard drugs back to the U.S. inside caskets of service men who had been killed in that war. Is that why?)

So go ahead and roll the tape for Mr. Bell. What you see here are what human mutilations look like. That one was a male about 27 years old. That one is film of dead aliens being pulled from the wreckage of a craft that crashed in Olancha, California in the '50s. That craft you see over there was over 250ft. in diameter and had to be buried on the spot. That site is in Utah near Dugway Proving Grounds. The object you're looking at now is the as the Kecksburg Acorn which was brought to Wright Patt in the middle '60s. There's Frank Drake trying to force information out of a being tied down to a stretcher. He was supposedly from Tao Ceti.

These pictures you're looking at now are structures on the Moon. That's the tower in Sinus Medii and it's over seven miles tall. And that thing over there is what we call the Colossus of Oguram(sp) in Mare Crisium. We don't know what it does but the machine itself is bigger than Brooklyn, New York. Now those are videos of the domes covering the craters. As you can see, some are in a very advanced state of decay.

These are 5 second slides of the 18 different alien species we are looking at. That one there is the most gruesome looking. The guards at one facility are carefully indoctrinated over several months being shown pictures similar to but not exactly like the alien. Only when he'd been acclimatized, so to speak, of the horrible looking beings are they allowed to stand in security positions. Before these acclimatizations were done, we had two guards die of a heart attack as the aliens came down the hallway unexpectedly.

And this last clip is of the Kennedy assassination. You've heard of the second gunman theory? Well, this is the second camera that recorded exactly what happened and we had 4 gunmen. And the bottom line was that Kennedy had to go. He insisted on releasing what little alien information we had told him about and he was trying to withdraw troops from Vietnam which we were using as a diversion for the public. After Kennedy we never told any President anything. Nixon knew because he was briefed as VP in 1952. That's how we knew where to take Jackie Gleason to Homestead Air Force Base to see the alien bodies we had in storage there. ( http://www.presidentialufo.com/jackie_gleason.htm )

And that's about it. What say you Art Bell? Do we brief the public? Yay or nay?"

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I discovered the story below on Whitley Streiber's website, www.unknowncountry.com :



First Men on Moon Saw UFOs
25-Jul-2006


In the documentary "Apollo 11: The Untold Story," shown on Britain's Channel Five on Monday night, July 24, astronaut Buzz Aldrin says he, Neil Armstrong and Michael Collins all saw a UFO shadowing their spacecraft. Apollo 11, which took off on July 16, 1969, was the first manned mission to the moon. Aldrin says, "There was something out there, close enough to be observed, and what could it be?" In the documentary, he says, "Now, obviously the three of us weren't going to blurt out, 'Hey, Houston, we've got something moving alongside of us and we don't know what it is,' you know? We weren't about to do that, because we knew that that those transmissions would be heard by all sorts of people and somebody might have demanded we turn back because of aliens or whatever the reason is." He says NASA knew about the UFO but covered up the information.

It has just been learned that all but two of the 700 boxes of Apollo 11 videos are mysteriously missing from the National Archives. The footage of the Apollo 11 mission was recorded on special 1-inch magnetic tape, and the only machines that can play it are at Goddard Space Flight Center in Maryland, which is being closed in the fall of 2006.

Astronaut Gordon Cooper, who took part in the earlier Mercury and Gemini missions, had his first UFO sighting as an Air Force pilot. He later said that a UFO landed at Edwards Air Force Base. In 1985, Cooper testified at the UN, saying, "I believe that these extraterrestrial vehicles and their crews are visiting this planet from other planets, which obviously are a little more technically advanced than we are here on Earth. For many years I have lived with a secret, in a secrecy imposed on all specialists and astronauts. I can now reveal that every day, in the USA, our radar instruments capture objects of form and composition unknown to us." Astronaut Edgar Mitchell, who was the 6th man to walk on the moon, has also said he believes in the existence of UFOs. ...

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In 1996, a lost advanced ancient Chinese civilization was discovered by Japanese anthropologists whose ruler appears to have come to Earth from, and returned to the star Regulus in the constalation Leo who people of Earth at that time referred to as a "Son of Heaven." Notably, their numbering system and arithmetic was based on the sexigesimal system, the same as in ancient Egypt:


Emperor Huang-ti




Mysteries of the Yellow Emperor
Paul Stonehill

Evidence of 'Fifth Ancient Civilization' Found in China
Chinese and Japanese archaeologists claim they have discovered in China's southwestern province of Sichuan evidence of the fifth ancient civilization, Japan's Kyodo News reported Monday, October 28 1996. The evidence is an earthen stage, unearthed during a joint archaeology project and estimated to date back 4,500 years. It was found among the remains of an ancient castle near the banks of the Yangtze River 56 miles (90 km) southwest of the city of Chengdu. The archaeologists involved in the excavation project explain that the earthen stage, pointing to an advanced knowledge of construction techniques by those who built it, reinforces the possibility of a fifth civilization. The world's four oldest civilizations are known as Mesopotamia, Egypt, Indus and China's Yellow River. Carbon isotope analysis on earthenware found at the excavation site was used to help identify the age of the castle and stage.

It is a very significant discovery . We may be closer to solving the enigma of the "Yellow Emperor," Huang-ti (27th century B.C.), who, it is said, lived in those misty reaches of time before the Shang dynasty.



In the beginning

Archaeological evidence suggests that China is one of the cradles of the human race. The earliest known human in China, whose fossilized skull was unearthed in Shanxi Province in 1963, is believed to date back to 600,000 BC.
Around the 4th or 3rd millennium BC, in the New Stone Age, great changes occurred in the lives of the ancient Chinese. Larger numbers of people began living together at settled places, cultivating land, and domesticating animals. These people made polished stone tools and built shelters in pit dwellings and beehive huts that were covered with reed roofs. Such villages were found mostly in the area of the great bend of the Huang He on the North China Plain. Despite its severe winters, this area was well suited to agriculture. In fact, it closely resembled the other cradles of ancient civilizations, such as the valley of the Nile in Egypt. As we will see, this is an important fact, because there are other striking similarities between the ancient civilizations. According to Chinese tradition, the Chinese people originated in the Huang He (Hwang Ho or Yellow River) valley. The legends tell of a creator, P'an Ku, who was succeeded by a series of heavenly, terrestrial, and human sovereigns. Rice was grown in eastern China circa 5500 BC, and about five centuries later an agricultural society developed in the Huang He valley.

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The Emperor's legacy

Chinese civilization owes much to the legendary ruler. Agriculture and husbandry simultaneously developed in the ancient times when Huang-ti ruled. Silkworm raising was accomplished earliest in China. Yue Jue Shu says Emperor Huang-ti started the silk clothing industry and cultivated mulberry (for silkworms) and hemp; as the Chinese archaeologists state "it is from historical records" (Selections of Chinese Relics and Archaeology, Foreign Languages Press, Beijing, 1995). We should be grateful that at least some historical records reach to us from the mists of time. Ancient scribes took care to leave us an incredible tale of a very strange being, the one they called the "Yellow Emperor." And it was in Huang-ti's age that the most ancient Chinese writing was "invented."

Like other ancient peoples, the Chinese developed unique attributes. Their form of writing, developed by 2000 BC, was a complex system of picture writing using forms called ideograms, pictograms, and phonograms. Such early forms of Chinese became known through the discovery by archaeologists of oracle bones, which were bones with writings inscribed on them. They were used for fortune-telling and record keeping in ancient China. In 1899 a small group of Chinese scholars and antiquarians collected quantities of inscribed bones from the fields around Hsiao T'un. Five years passed before enough symbols could be deciphered to reveal the true nature of the "dragon bones." They were a record of a people who called themselves Shang, and ruled lands surrounding Anyang some four thousand years ago. The objects embedded in the fields of Hsiao T'un came not from dragons but from tortoises and cattle. Shang kings desired to glimpse into the future, and their diviners inscribed the royal inquiries on a carefully scraped and polished tortoise shell or ox blade or leg bone. Years later the People's Republic of China archaeologists uncovered thousands more Shang oracle bones. Corps of learned people created a whole new branch of linguistic study, Jia gu shu, the study of shell and bone writing. As scholars pored over the writings of ancient diviners, they reached a provocative conclusion: Shang writing was not the oldest Chinese writing, not by a thousand years at least. The characters used then were already so sophisticated that they undoubtedly had many centuries of development behind them. Very little is known pre-Shang writing. The Shang Dynasty (1766-1122 BC) is the first documented era of ancient China. The highly developed hierarchy consisted of a king, nobles, commoners, and slaves. The capital city was Anyang, in north Henan Province. Some scholars have suggested that travelers from Mesopotamia and from Southeast Asia brought agricultural methods to China, which stimulated the growth of ancient Chinese civilization. If so, there may be a direct connection with Sumer. The Shang peoples were known for their use of jade, bronze, horse-drawn chariots, ancestor worship, and highly organized armies. A significant aspect of China is its long cultural and national history. The Chinese people have shared a common culture longer than any other group on Earth. The Chinese writing system dates back almost 4,000 years.

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Ancient libraries

The earliest known libraries were connected with palaces and temples. In China, records of the Shang dynasty were written on animal bones and tortoise shells. An early library called "The Healing Place of the Soul"; in the palace of Egypt's King Ramses II (1304?-1237 BC) at Thebes, consisted of thousands of papyrus scrolls. Among the most important libraries in the ancient Near East was the palace library of Ashurbanipal (668?-627? BC) at Nineveh in Assyria. This early type of national library, collected "for the sake of distant days" consisted of over 30,000 clay tablets. Early librarians were usually priests, teachers, or scholars. The first known Chinese librarian was the philosopher Lao Tse, who was appointed keeper of the royal historical records for the Chou rulers about 550 BC. There is a definite connection between Lao Tse and the Yellow Emperor.
Many cultures identify a sacred being as the creator of writing. In Egypt, the honor was shared by Thoth and Isis, while the ancient Greeks thanked Hermes for their writing words.

The Yellow Emperor was a highly gifted "Son of Heaven". Legend goes that he was the inventor of many things such as making clothes, manufacturing boats and vehicles, building houses and palaces, etc. He also had his court officials Lun Ling make musical instruments, Da Nao compile the Heavenly Stems and the Earthly Branches (The 10 Heavenly Stems and 12 Earthly Branches are used in combination to designate years, months, days and hours), and Ts'ang Chieh invent the Chinese characters. Thus, the Chinese tradition attributes the invention of writing to Ts'ang Chieh, a minister of the heroic "Yellow Emperor," Huang-ti.

When men first learned to write, "all spirits cried in agony, as the innermost secrets of nature were thus revealed."

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Chinese mathematics
The origin of Chinese math is surrounded by a great amount of myth since many of the ancient mathematical writings were lost through the decay of the bamboo material they used to write on. It is believed that the Emperor Huang-ti was the first patron of mathematics. Under Huang-ti's rule, his ministers, Tai-mao and Li-shou devised a sexigesimal based number system and corresponding arithmetic.
The Chinese believed that numbers had philosophical and metaphysical properties. The Chinese used numbers "to achieve spiritual harmony with the cosmos." They believed Man's "...existence depended upon numerically specified actions and obligations."

Early Chinese math was presented in a literary form. There was no use of algebraic notation. The digits in their base 10 systems were ciphered and they were written vertically on bark, bamboo, silk, and paper. The traditional Chinese numeral system was a multiplicative grouping system, although a later system, called scientific Chinese numerals was a positional system.

In love...
The oldest books on love are the Chinese "Handbooks of Sex" written 5,000 years ago by the legendary Yellow Emperor, Huang-ti (2697-2598 BC).

...and war
The knowledge of the four useful branches of military knowledge concerned with (1) mountains, (2) rivers, (3) marshes, and (4) plains; and enabled the Yellow Emperor to vanquish four several sovereigns (Napoleon had similar beliefs about the art of war). Ancient Chinese writings confirm that the Yellow Emperor was responsible for the invention of warfare.

In the LIU T`AO it is mentioned that Huang-ti "fought seventy battles and pacified the Empire." Ts`ao Kung's explanation is, that the Yellow Emperor was the first to institute the feudal system of vassals princes, each of whom (to the number of four) originally bore the title of Emperor. Li Ch`uan tells us that the art of war originated under Huang-ti, who received it from his Minister Feng. Huang-ti, or the Yellow Emperor, is referred to as the "Originator of the Chinese Culture", and all people of the Chinese race regard themselves as descendants of Yan Di and Huan-ti.

With the original surname of Gongsun (later changed to Ji) and another name Youxiong Shi, Huang-ti was also known as Xuanyuan Shi as he lived at the Xuanyuan Hill. A clan leader towards the end of China's primitive society, Huang-ti Di was the full brother of Yan Di with whom he shared the country. He formed an alliance with Yan Di in later years against the invasion of Chiyou, the chieftain of the Jiuli Tribe. A decisive battle was fought at Zhuolu in the northwest of the present Hebei Province. Legend goes that at the beginning of the battle, Chiyou sneezed out a thick fog all over the place which lasted three days, and the soldiers of Huang-tii could not tell their directions. Fortunately Huang-ti led his men out of the fog by the "compass chariot" he had invented and won complete victory.

The alliance of Huang-ti and Yan Di split after Chiyou was defeated because, it was said, Yan Di intended to infringe upon the various tribes and seize the leading position of the alliance while the chieftains of the tribes preferred to obey Huang-ti. As a result the two leaders fought at Banquan. After three fierce battles, Huang-ti won victory and was made the "Son of Heaven" by the tribe chieftains.

Strict and impartial, Huang Di was able to get rid of the evil for the people. It was said that Gu, son of the God of Mount Zhongshan named Zhulong, murdered another god at Mount Kunlun in collaboration with a deity called Qinpi. The Yellow Emperor was indignant at their atrocity and immediately had them killed.

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Lao Tse (or Lao Tzu) and Huang-ti

Although ascetics and hermits such as Shen Tao (who advocated that one "abandon knowledge and discard self") first wrote of the "Tao," it is with the sixth century B.C. philosopher Lao Tzu (or 'Old Sage' -- born Li Erh) that the philosophy of Taoism really began. Some scholars believe he was a slightly older contemporary of Con***ius (Kung-Fu Tzu, born Chiu Chung-Ni). There is also a close association between Lao Tzu and the legendary Yellow Emperor, Huang-ti.

What was the association between an emperor long gone and the court librarian who founded Taoism? Although deeply rooted in Chinese history Taoism is a way of life rather than a religion. It's essence being strongly based on Lao Tzu's (570?-490? B.C.) writings called the Tao Te Ching. The book is separated into two parts: the first is the "book of the way," the second is the "book of virtue." He believed that a harmony existed between Heaven and Earth and that it could be found by anyone, at anytime- all they needed to do was follow the natural flow of nature called the Tao or "the Way."

His basic teaching was that the Tao could not be spoken of, for words cannot describe the infinite Universe.

Alongside the development of Taoism as a philosophy another more strictly religious interpretation of Taoism was evolving. This "religious" Taoism had its own temples, priests, rites and symbolic images. Lao Tzu was venerated as a "saint" and imperial sacrifices were made to him. It drew strongly upon the ideas of yin-yang and of the "Five Agents" (metal, wood, water, fire & earth). During this time there began to develop a pantheon of Taoist deities that were often venerated as gods. So prominent were astrology, alchemy and divination in this stream of Taoism that it had veered away from philosophy to occultism. This movement was sometimes known as Huang-Lao after the legendary Yellow Emperor, Huang-ti and Lao Tzu.

From this form of Taoism emerged very strong alchemical currents as Taoist practitioners (much like Western mystics a millennium later) at the court of Shih Huang-ti of the Qin (Ch'in) dynasty (221-207 BC) tried to cultivate powers that would transform base metals to gold, and hence would serve as a metonym for the transformation of human qualities to the transcendent. These practitioners were also acclaimed as spirit mediums and experts in levitation.

Was the knowledge of strange powers given to Lao Tzu by those who held the legacy of the Yellow Emperor? Or did the Emperor himself give this knowledge to Lao Tzu?

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Sons Of Heaven
The "Yellow Emperor" was a rather interesting entity. I intentionally avoid calling him a human being, not because I seek to offend the Chinese people, but because the information I had collected about Huang-ti (albeit scarce) convinces me otherwise.

The ancient Chinese records mention amazing, wise and humane (humane, not human-P.S.) beings, the" Sons of Heaven" (this term became emperors' title much later), who had done so much for the then savage dwellers of the Huang He River valley. Before the "Sons of Heaven" appeared on Earth, familiar celestial phenomena preceded all such appearances. Before Huang-ti was born there occurred " a radiance from the great star Chi and the Dipper Constellation (Ursa Major)."

A very ancient, pre-Buddhist religion of Tibet ("bon") described how a mighty "Friend of virtue and kindness" had appeared on Earth:

"...Egg, created by magical forces of gods Sa and Bal, exited under the action of its own weight from the divine bosom of empty sky. The shell became a defensive armor. The casing defended like amour, and that which is White became a source of strength for heroes. The inner casing became a stronghold for those who had dwelt in it...From the very center of the Egg came a human being, Possessor of magic force...

Of all the "Sons of Heaven" it was Huang-ti who had left the "largest footprint" in the Chinese mythology. He first made his appearance in the Huang He River basin.
Huang-ti was very different from other ancient heroes. He did not enlighten people, did not demand worship. Huang-ti and his helpers were amazingly rational beings. Of course, they did teach the natives all kinds of useful sciences, including the acupuncture. However, most important for them were their own affairs. And such affairs were dominated by the creation of complex, and alas, incomprehensible (at least, to us) apparatuses and contrivances.

Mr. Krapiva, a noted Ukrainian researcher of anomalous phenomena, related in his book "UFOs: a hovering enigma of history" (Odessa, 1991) that Huang-ti manufactured twelve gigantic mirrors of unknown nature and used them " following the Moon". Archaeologists in modern China add another detail. They cite The Biography of Huang-ti: "When the Emperor met the West Empress at the Mountains of Wangwu, twelve large mirrors were wrought for use month by month." According to Mr. Krapiva the Biography of Huang-ti was based on mysterious legends. What did the ancient scribes mean by "following the Moon?" What drove Huang-ti establish some connection between his "mirrors" and Moon? There is even a more curious detail uncovered by Krapiva. "Account of Wonders" (sixth century B.C.E) contained the following story: People of the Mirror Lake tell that where Huang-ti cast his mirrors, there remains a stone that polished them. Creepers (creeping grass-P.S.) does not grow on that stone. Lao Tzu lived in that age: did he see the stone in question?

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Miraculous Tripods

Numerous sources relate that Huang-ti manufactured and used some "miraculous tripods." The "tripods" were not used for water, nor was there any fire to heat and prepare food in them. The purpose of such a "tripod" was quite different: it was a "likeness of the Great Infinite," Tao, the concealed engine of the Universe. A "tripod" was approximately 3-4 meters in height, but its volume relatively small: 100 liters. The legs carried most of its weight. A curious human observer would not be able to glance inside the "tripod," but sources did say that "hundreds of spirits filled its insides." Krapiva, who has studied all such sources available, is of the opinion that a functioning "tripod" emitted some noises, voices. The legends of ancient China said that the "tripods" depicted "dragons, flying in the clouds"; it was the same "dragon" who eventually arrived and carried off Huang-ti and his colleagues. Most likely the "tripods" were used for distant communications, because their location were chosen in such a way that the star Syuan Yuan would be pointed at. It is from that star that Huang-ti arrived on Earth. We know this star as Regulus, of the Leo constellation; more about this curious star later.

There is a mountain, 18 kilometers northeast of Zhaoqing, first called Summit Lake Mountain because there is a lake on its top. Legend says that the Yellow Emperor once had a tripod cast here, hence the present name. It is one of the four famous mountains in south China. The most interesting quality of the "tripods" was its ability to store knowledge and data. Such a "tripod" knew " favorable and unfavorable signs, knew that which exists and that which has disappeared." Moreover, a "tripod" could remain still, and could walk about, was able to become light and heavy (Krapiva thinks it could somehow manipulate gravitation). The sources listed by Ukrainian scholar are "Records of the foremost deeds of Huang-ti the Great" and "Glorification of the three tripods of Huang-ti" written by Zao Ji.

The Chi Yu Entity

Huang-ti and most of his assistants operated in the Northern China. It was there that the Chinese civilization subsequently developed. The south of China was developed by entities whose exact nature is not easily determined: were they living organisms? independent mechanisms? or mechanisms, controlled by living creatures? Ancient sources name them "Chi Yu and his brothers." Obviously, they were quite identical. Perhaps the discovery of the "fifth civilization" site at Chengdu, and subsequent excavations will shed some light on those who "developed the South." Krapiva was able to collect some information about Chi Yu.

Just like Huang-ti, Chi Yu had four eyes (at least, considered as such), six arms, or manipulators. The strangest of all was Chi Yu's head: it was made from copper and had a metallic forehead, and some tridents in place of ears. According to the local legends, the metallic head was cut off the body (with all appropriate safeguards), and buried separately. Years later this head continued to emit heat. On occasions a reddish steam-like cloud would come from the burial site: the locals worshiped it ("Five books of Huang-ti").

Chi Yu was able to move in the rugged areas, and even fly (for short periods of time). His (or its...) taste for food was quite impressive: all sources suggest that the creature ate "stones and sand": this way it obtained energy that was necessary for the creature's movements. Were Chi Yu and "his" brothers living creatures? Krapiva thinks that were complex autonomous mechanisms, akin to robots. Actually but one of the creatures would have to be controlled by an intelligent life form, but the natives considered them all as living creatures.

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http://www.mystae.com/streams/ufos/emperor.html



Returning to his Home Star

Huang-ti ruled the land for one hundred years, but his life span was much greater: some sources suggest that he lived for three hundred years. Where he spent the rest of his days, and what activities he was engaged in is open to speculation. There are Tao sources who state unambiguously that after one hundred years of his "rule" Huang-ti returned to his home star, "ascended the heavens, and became the ruler of the Great Infinite, again turning into the star Syuan Yuan." The same star that his "tripods" had pointed at. An ancient Chinese drawing of the Syuan Yuan constellation has been identified by modern astronomers as that of the Leo constellation. Its brightest star is (Alpha Leo), Regulus. We do not know much about this star; we do know that there are very few similarities between our Sun and Regulus. But there is a very curious similarity: there exists, in the Regulus star system, a radio source that emits signals in metric wave bands. In our Solar system there is also such a source: Earth.

The essence of thunder
Huang-ti's image was that of an "thunder." Aborigines of Australia have similar myths of beings who traveled at great speeds, and emitted "thunder." But Huang-ti was a more defined "thunder": it (the thunder) was identified with elongated drums. That is how the "thunder" was depicted, as bunches of drums, each drum subdivided into four sections. What is more amazing, one of Huang-ti's assistants was known as "prince of thunder"...a navigator?

Huang-ti, "having possessed the essence of thunder" was able to move through space at enormous velocities. He had a "dragon," Changhuan, used by Huang-ti to ascend to Sun. One ancient writing mentioned that this marvelous means of transportation "originates in the land where suns are born," and is very old, over three thousand years. But most significant is the notion that the enormous speed has an effect on the movement of Time, and staves off the ageing process of human organism. Biography of Huang-ti states that a "changhuan" covers myriads of miles in a day, and that human who "rides" it can reach an age of two thousand years.

Regulus (Alpha Leo)
Where did Huang-ti fly to? Look through a telescope on a bright starry night. Leo can be found in the Northern Hemisphere in the spring and Southern Hemisphere in autumn. Right Ascension: 11 hours. Declination: 15 degrees. Visible between latitudes 90 and -65 degrees. Best seen in April (at 9:00 P.M.). Regulus, the 25th brightest star in the sky, means "prince. It has other names:
Cor Leonis ("heart of a lion"); Rex; Al Kalb al Asad; Kabeleced.
The origin of the name for the constellation where Regulus resides is also of interest to us. Leo is the Nemean Lion from the Moon who was sent by Hera to slay Hercules. As Hercules first labor, he killed the lion by strangling it with his bare hands. Legend says that the lion had a hide that could not punctured by iron, bronze or stone. Since he couldn't reason with the ferocious beast, Hercules strangled it to death and the local people were very grateful. Hercules wore the skin, which made him invincible. When Hercules died, the lion was returned to the celestial heavens with Hercules. Did the myths of ancient Greeks originate in China, and the "dragon" become a "lion?"
The Chaldeans associated Leo with the sun since it is in the sky during the summer solstice (although this is no longer true, due to the precession of the Earth's axis). Since Nile floods around this time, the ancient Egyptians worshiped the celestial lion.

Leo to the Egyptians, was the place the Sun rose after creation (near Denebola) and so was called Domicilium Solis, the badge of fire and heat, or the House of the Sun.



What secrets will be uncovered by Chinese and Japanese archaeologists? Will the discoveries lead us to the evidence we humans have so longed for, the evidence that ages ago we were not the only intelligent life form on Earth?
I will write more about the mysterious Chinese Emperor Huang-ti in my article about the Guge Kingdom of Tibet, that "Celestial Kingdom" which vanished abruptly and inexplicably some three hundred years ago. Few researchers know of Guge, but I recently collected and analyzed some very interesting information.
The search for the identity of the Yellow Emperor goes on.



Paul Stonehill
China Paranormal Research Center
P.O. Box 571951
Tarzana, CA. 91357-1951

rurc@earthlink.net


Click here for more information on Paul Stonehill.

Related Sites
Shih Huang Ti
Computer-generated images and movie of the emperor's fabulous underground palace

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A March 21, 2006 interview recap of Robert Temple on Coast to Coast AM with possible recent physical evidence for support (Please scoll down the link below to see a photo of the being possibly described. That same being/creature recently sold on E-bay.):

http://www.coasttocoastam.com/shows/2006/07/25.html



Sirius Mystery & Ancient Oracles
Author Robert Temple shared his research into the The Sirius Mystery as well as the oracles used by the Greeks and other ancients. According to anthropological studies, the Dogon Tribe of Africa developed a religion based on the Sirius star system and were aware of Sirius B (a companion star that can't be seen with the naked eye) as well as a third star in that system which wasn't confirmed by astronomers until 1995, nearly 20 years after Temple wrote about it in his book.

The Dogons believed that beings from a planet in the Sirius system came to Earth in the distant past, landing in a place where their ancestors came from (Temple suggested that this was probably Egypt). These ETs were slimy, air-breathing aquatic creatures that had fish-like tails and arms without elbows, and he noted that similar beings have also been described in ancient China, Greece, and Sumeria. The Dogons said that when the ETs were here, a new star appeared in the sky that disappeared after they left. Temple surmised that this was likely their orbiting mothership.

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Mary Rodwell, a UFOs and Aliens researcher in Australia, was interviewed on Coast to Coast AM. She talked about close encounters with ETs, experiencers and star kids. The interview recap is as follows below:

http://www.coasttocoastam.com/shows/2006/07/25.html



Close Encounters, Star Kids & ETs
Mary Rodwell, the founder of the Australian Close Encounter Resource Network (ACERN), shared knowledge gathered from working with alien abductees, experiencers and 'Star Kids.' She has found children's accounts of contact with ETs to be particularly compelling, with one child describing being transported through walls and saying he learns more on spaceships than he does in school. A number of abductees have reversed their negative conceptions of their encounters, she said. For instance, they might view the medical procedures done on them as necessary for the ET's monitoring of Earth pollution.

Rodwell said that many of her clients have around 80% conscious recall of their experiences aboard alien craft. They sometimes see more than one type of ET working together, which might include the Insect/Mantis type (ancient & wise), Lion Beings w/ human-like face (loving) as well as the beige-colored small Zetas, she detailed. Experiencers sometimes create unusual scripts & complex artwork, or speak in strange languages. According to Rodwell, these "holographic packets" are an aspect of multidimensional ET communications, which could help humans evolve.

She has also examined the Star Kids phenomenon and noted that in many cases children over the past few decades have developed accelerated abilities. In metaphysical circles, they are sometimes referred to as Indigo or Crystal children. Rodwell sees the development of Star Kids as the ET's deliberate program to "upgrade humanity." She noted that in China, children in a "super-psychic" program can open the bud of a flower with their mind, or change the DNA of a sample in a Petri dish.

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Below is a Coast to Coast AM interview recap of South African UFOs and aliens researcher, Michael Tellinger:

http://www.coasttocoastam.com/shows/2006/02/28.html



Human Origins & the 'gods'

South African author Michael Tellinger presented the thesis that mankind was genetically created by ancient astronauts, the Annunaki, in order to serve as a work force at their gold mines in Africa some 200,000 years ago. The Annunaki needed gold particles to shield the atmosphere of their planet, he explained. There is evidence of ancient mines between 30,000-50,000 years old in Africa, and Sumerian depictions show miners using machinery and light to conduct their operations, he said. The value gold has had throughout civilizations originated with the Annunaki's obsession with it, Tellinger stated.

All of the twelve major religions reference a mythological god involved in our creation, he said. But humanity has been praying to the wrong god-- namely the ancient astronauts who genetically designed us for their dubious purposes, Tellinger argued. That is why he refers to them with the lower case letter "g." The residents of Sodom and Gomorrah may have actually been an Annunaki "resistance movement," who were wiped out by nuclear explosives, he added.

The Sumerian tablets, which have been translated by Zecharia Sitchin and others, are the oldest written historical documents. One from the Schoyen Collection in Norway talks about Kings who ruled for a total of 220,000 years-- information that is corroborated in other tablets, Tellinger reported.

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A Coast to Coast AM interview recap with Lloyd Pye, UFO and aliens reseacher about starchildren, alien/human hybrids and possible alien reasons for their, some of our, creation:

http://www.coasttocoastam.com/shows/2005/06/20.html



Starchild and Hybrids

Caretaker of the Starchild Skull, Lloyd Pye returned to share an update on the skull and also offer insights on the alien/human hybrid issue. The Starchild skull, which is estimated to be around 900 years old, was discovered in Mexico next to a human female skull. DNA tests are still inconclusive for the Starchild, he said, and they need nuclear DNA to determine its paternity. Tests have shown that it had a human mother which fits into the collective "Star Being" legends which speak of aliens coming down and impregnating women, he noted.

The skull is extremely unique, Pye declared, and it's remarkably symmetrical which excludes it from being a product of most types of human deformity. Tests done in 2004 show an odd red residue in some of the skull that is unexplained, as well as unusual fibers that have not been able to be identified, he reported.

Pye believes that beyond the Starchild (which he thinks may be a "grey" hybrid), the human race itself is a product of alien hybridization. As evidence for this, he cited how in humans their 2nd and 3rd genes are fused together, which he suggested is unlikely to occur naturally in evolution. Rather, he described a scenario where aliens came here and tinkered with our genetics in a lab, in order to create a being that would be suitable for them as both servants and companions. Further, he theorized that the current alien abduction and hybrid program may be for populating another planet.

Pye also mentioned he'll be at The Chaffinch House in the town of Easton, Maryland on June 28-30th, as part of series of monthly roundtables on alternative research that is being planned at this bed and breakfast.

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I came upon the professional UFOs and aliens research website below that talks about what a typical abduction experience is like with illusratative drawings. There is alot that's of interest there.

Dr. David M. Jacobs, International Center for Abduction Research (ICAR).

http://www.ufoabduction.com/straighttalk.htm

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Thinking about the wolf like creature that attacked the rancher's cow by biting it and leaving deep wounds behind at Skinwalker Ranch in Utah and that the rancher shot with his 30-06 rifle multiple times at point blank range while standing alongside Ph.D. biologist, Colm Kelleher, with no effect ,including no blood, but only a piece of flesh that came off of it and that Colm, upon immediate examiniation, determined was completely necrotic tissue; I think it my have been artificially created by an unkown technology combining molucules litterally out of the air as that wolk like creature was described as seeming to first appear out of nowhere. How else could a bioligically 'dead' wolf like creature bite and wound a cow, then, not be affected by being shot with a high power rifle at close range; not even bleed? The big question is, What was the purpose for the manifestation? In part, I think the purpose can be answered by the general effect it would likely be safe to assume it would have on most human observers; to question:

Q What was it?

A Upon biological examination, a dead wolf like creature.

Q Where did it come from?

A It just appeared out on the plains and came apparently out of nowhere.

Q How is that possible?

A Molecular combination?

Q Who is able to do that?

A Aliens?

Q Which aliens?

Q Why did that dead wolf like creature attack only the cow and not the people and especially the rancher who was shooting at it?

A Because it was under some kind of directed control?

Q Why?

A So people will know aliens are here and that aliens are powerful?

I think capturing human attention of highly unusual phenomena and, thereby, forcing people to think and question many things about 'reality' and the nature of reality is at least a part of the reason aliens do what aliens do.

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I just watched a UFO documentary on National Geographic Channel hosted by Peter Jennings (2005).

As Jennifer probably already mentioned, in the 40's and 50's there was a rash of sightings in the U.S. which our government took seriously until they deemed that the flood of calls from citizen sightings clogging our communication system was a potential security problem. That's when they began their campaign to discredit all sightings. The initial scientist hired to do the discrediting now attests to the reality of UFO's.

One scientist pointed out that "it is inexcusably egotistical for us to believe we are alone" considering that there are 1,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 estimated suns in the universe.

Though it may be hard to conceive of the technology that would allow beings to travel thousands of light years away, anything is possible when you also consider that some would likely be millions of years more advanced than us.

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Hi, -V-. Thank you for sharing that story. Wow, who was that scientist who first disavowed the existance of UFOs as directed by our U.S. government and now says they are real? It's extraordinary that it was aired on televison. Amazing ...

[-V-]

the show is UFOs: Seeing Is Believing
NGC and will air again on Aug 27 09:00am

I don't recall the name but it may be Dr. Steven Greer.

Here is a transcript (which I have not read)
http://www.disclosureproject.org/Transcripts/TranscriptCharlesGoyetteRadioShowInterview-DrStevenGreer-Feb252005.htm
of his Interview on Charles Goyette Radio Show February 25, 2005 the day after the show first aired.

[MAGI]

the show is UFOs: Seeing Is Believing
NGC and will air again on Aug 27 09:00am

I don't recall the name but it may be Dr. Steven Greer.

Here is a transcript (which I have not read)
http://www.disclosureproject.org/Transcripts/TranscriptCharlesGoyetteRadioShowInterview-DrStevenGreer-Feb252005.htm
of his Interview on Charles Goyette Radio Show February 25, 2005 the day after the show first aired.

-V-, I was just going to post that Charles Goyette will soon have a blog & you beat me to it! Not set up yet, I see. I got the same thing yesterday when I "hit" it.

I wonder if the show you saw mentioned the fact that may-be the energy the UFOs use is the VERY reason this is a well kept secret? This really is scary knowing EVEN our former Presidents were kept in the dark when they tried to learn what is known about UFOs...............

http://www.disclosureproject.org/Transcripts/TranscriptCharlesGoyetteRadioShowInterview-DrStevenGreer-Feb252005.htm

one paragraph:


Well, number one. The secrecy started out because they didn't know what they were dealing with and they were afraid of people reacting in a negative way to something that was more powerful than any technology that *we* had. I think that this then evolved to a situation as -- once they realized what the technology was -- and we're estimating that between 1950 and 1960 they basically had figured out the energy and propulsion generation systems behind these sorts of objects. They realized that it extracts energy from the fabric of space around us. Not outer space, but space. In fact, we have an experimental program going on now called Space Energy Access Systems. You can see the web site SEASpower.com to look into this. The question is, what impact would that have? Well, essentially you're talking about things with propulsion and energy generation capabilities that are not your Grand Dad's Oldsmobile. These things are not moving through interstellar space using Jet A fuel or rocket fuel, or anything like that. It's a whole new type of physics, and the problem with it is that it means 'good bye' oil, gas, coal, centralized utilities...oops, I just wrote off about a 6 or 7 trillion dollar part of the global economy. It is an enormously big issue in terms of money, power, geopolitical power, etc. So, this issue -- far from being the 'ha ha' piece of people having sex with creatures from another star system -- is really about the death grip the current power players have on the geopolitical order and the economic order of this planet. And they damn well intend to keep us addicted to black oil for as long as they can. The problem is, is that many people even within this management group that I have met with, and I *have* met with people who are on the policy board of this group, are concerned that we *may* be running out of time to transition out of fossil fuels, and so the good news is that many of them support bringing this information out as well as the technologies out -- they just don't know how to do it -- and they've painted themselves into such a corner of secrecy, it's hard for them to even acknowledge that these projects exist to the world because there would be so much outrage at the fact that we have destroyed so much of the world's environment and impoverished so much of the world artificially over the last 40 or 50 years.

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Hi, MAGI. It's terrific to have your post here too about what technical knowledge of UFOs holds in store for solving many problems we have here on Earth. I'll tell you about two of my own UFO sightings. I was living in Walnut Creek and began attending a Unitarian Universalist Church there. Shortly after I began attending, a man who was also fairly new to that church introduced himself to me, and over a period of a few months we became friendly. He invited me to his apartment, one of four units he owned in the next nearest town just west of Walnut Creek in Lafayette. One warm summer night we were talking out on his deck when he saw three largish dots (somewhat bigger than the stars) of alternating multicolored lights in the sky that he pointed out to me. We stood watching them and noticed they were actually moving together slowly, pacing each other perfectly, east to west over the high hills that were northwest of our location. One of my friend's tenants upstairs was out on her deck too. She saw us and heard us talking and asked what we were looking at. We pointed the UFOs out to her and went up to where she was so we could see them better. We just continued watching them until astonishingly each one broke the pattern and went off in completely different directions, one from another. The one in the middle went due west over the bay to the ocean. The one to the right went north. The one to the left went south. We lost sight of the one that went south first. The UFO that changed direction 90 degrees from west to north astounded us when it went downward like a falling leaf does over what I thought might have been someplace in Marin.

After the UFOs had all gone out of sight, we talked about UFOs and paranormal things for awhile. I mentioned that I wanted to learn how to meditate and the upstairs tenant said she had taken a meditation class with a man who was very good, whose price was very reasonable and who lived nearby in Berkeley. She gave me his name and telephone number, and a short while later I called him and began learning to meditate with him. The final session was an intense one week long summer meditation retreat where we meditated several times a day in a rural ranch location that was located midway between Mt. Lassen and Mt. Shasta where I could see both mountains. One very warm night there I was looking up at the sky and saw three of those dots with alternating multicolored lights again that I'd estimate were several thousand miles up. Two were stationary and one was moving very very slowly. I was carrying a compass with me and was wearing a watch that had a second hand. It occurred to me to see if the UFO that was moving would have any affect on my compass, so I went to the fence and put my compass down on the fence post so there would be no chance of movement by me. Amazingly I saw my compass pulse 17 degrees back and forth. I proceeded to time the pulses at about one every 2.5 seconds. My thought at the time was that they were surveying for earthquake fault activity by triangulation. That little exercise is proof that UFOs generate a very strong electromagnetic field indeed. They are completely silent, and they can remain completely still in the sky or move slowly. That means UFOs use electrogravitics to defeat gavity. Now what are the implications of that for our planet Earth?

[Jennifer_SFBA]

Hi, -V-. Dr. Steven Greer is a medical doctor who gave up his medical practice to explore UFOs and aliens full-time. He wound up creating the "Disclosure Project." There was a U.S. government "study" in 1968, if one can call it that. The link and quote below is about that "study." At the time of the "study," astronomer and newbe to UFOs and aliens, J. Allen Hyneck, Ph.D., was appointed to the "study" committee by U.S. government officals. After awhile, Dr. Hyneck reversed himself 180 degrees and said UFOs and aliens should be funded, investigated and scientifcally studied (meaning there is something real there for scientists to study scientifcally), and before Dr. Hyneck died, he did believe UFOs and aliens were very real. Early on in the "study" while he was still very new to anything UFO and alien related, Dr. Hyneck offered the common phenomena explanation for UFO sightings, that they were "swamp gas." Immediately he came under severe criticism for having offered that as a explanation for the UFO and aliens phenomenon.

http://www.ufoevidence.org/topics/CondonReport.htm



The Condon Report

In the late 1960's, the United States Air Force issued a contract to the University of Colorado to carry out a scientific study of evidence concerning the UFO phenomenon. The director of the project was Prof. Edward U. Condon, a distinguished and influential physicist who made no secret of his opinion even at the outset that no substantive evidence for extraterrestrial visitation was liable to result. The study was relatively brief (2 years) and had a notably low budget (app. $500K) for a serious scientific study. When the Condon Report was released in 1968, the American scientific community accepted its negative apparent conclusion concerning evidence for extraterrestrial visitation in a generally uncritical way, and to some extent even an enthusiastic way since it offered an end to a troublesome situation. An endorsement of the Report by the National Academy of Sciences took place following an unusually rapid review and the Air Force quickly used the Report as a justification to terminate any further public involvement with the topic of UFOs. Project Blue Book closed up shop. The negative conclusion of the Report is more apparent than real however, since there is a substantial discrepancy between the conclusion in the "Summary of the Study" written by Condon singlehandedly, and the conclusion one could reasonably draw from the evidence presented in the body of the Report. (Bernard Haisch, UFOSkeptic.org)

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CORRECTION: I was reading what I wrote here about my UFO sightings to my aunt who is dying of cancer and realized I said several thousand "miles." No, It appeared they were several thousand feet up, not miles. They were also thousands of feet away from my observation locations too.

[Jennifer_SFBA]

Hi, MAJI. Below is that link for SEASpower.com. It's very interesting, and I'm quoting the their statement of purpose below:

http://www.seaspower.com/



Space Energy Access Systems, Inc. (SEAS) is in the process of identifying and testing new technologies that claim to be "over unity"; that is, they put out more electric power than is required to operate. It is our goal, utilizing a unique strategic approach, to bring forth these new environmentally sound technologies to replace virtually all fossil fuel, internal combustion and ionizing nuclear technologies within 20-30 years.

[Jennifer_SFBA]

From my reading of the Christian Bible and research about UFOs and aliens, it became clear to me that "God" who spoke with Moses in Exodus in the Old Testament of the Christian Bible is an alien being, most likely interdimensional. Please see Exodus 33: 1-23. I have reasoned that any and every embodied being cannot be The One God, Spirit out of which all existance spang, inclusve of that singular embodied being who spoke with Moses and is referenced as "God" and "the Lord." God that Jesus Christ spoke of, and "God," "the Lord" who Moses spoke with, is not at all the same God.



Exodus 33:7-11

And Moses took the tabernacle and pitched it without the camp, afar off from the camp, and called it the Tabernacle of the congregation. And it came to pass, that every one which sought the Lord went out unto the tabernacle of the congregation, which was without the camp.

And it came to pass, when Moses went out into the tabernacle, that all the people rose up, and stood every man at his tent door, and looked after Moses, until he was gone into the tabernacle.

And it came to pass, as Moses entered into the tabernacle, the cloudy pillar descended, and stood at the door of the tabernacle, and the Lord talked with Moses.

And all the people saw the cloudy pillar stand at the tabernacle door, and all the people rose up and worshipped, every man in his tent door.

And the Lord spake unto Moses face to face, as a man speaketh unto his friend. And he turned again into the camp; but his survant Joshua, the son of Nun, a young man, departed not out of the tabernacle.

Exodus 33:15-23

And he (Moses) said unto him, if thy presence not go with me, carry us not up hence.

For wherein shall it be known here that I and thy people have found grace in thy sight? is it not in that thou goest with us? so shall we be separated, I and thy people, from all the people that are upon the face of the earth.

And the Lord said unto Moses, I will do this thing also that thou hast spoken; for thou hast found grace in my sight, and I know thee by name.

And he (Moses) said, I beseach thee, show me thy glory.

And he (the Lord) said, I will make all my goodness pass before thee; and will be gracious to whom I will be gracious, and will shew mercy on whom I will shew mercy.

And he (the Lord) said, Thou canst not see my face; for there shall no man see me, and live.

And the Lord said, Behold there is a place by me, and thou shalt stand upon a rock;

And it shall come to pass, while my glory passeth by, that I will put thee in a cleft of the rock, and will cover thee with my hand while I pass by;

And will take away mine hand, and thou shalt see my back parts; but my face shall not be seen.

[Jennifer_SFBA]

Considering the sexual and genetic component of alien abductions of human beings and the documented alien human hybridization that is the result of that component, it appears to me it fits in historically with recounted Biblical events.

Aliens call our physical human bodies "containers."

There were the favored 12 tribes of Israel who came from certain favored "genetic" family liniages.

Nations that were not of those linages were ordered by "God" to be destroyed by "God's" own favored Israelites. Recounts of that are able to be seen in Exodus, the 33RD chapter.

[Jennifer_SFBA]

I found a website I truely enjoy, "Slate" "BLOGGING THE BIBLE." It's great fun reading.

The quote below from BLOGGING THE BIBLE is on Deuteronomy Chapter 2:

http://www.slate.com/id/2148437/



Chapter 2

Moses' account of various conquests in the Wilderness. This chapter helps explain why the Lord took savage vengeance on the Midianites but left the whoring Moabites unpunished. During their desert crossing, apparently, God instructed the Israelites to pass peacefully through Moabite territory rather than conquer it, because the Moabites were descendants of Lot and thus occupied land given to them by God. Similarly, the Israelites didn't bother the Edomites because they're Esau's kin. King Sihon of the Amorites doesn't get off so easy: When he refuses to grant safe passage to the Israelites, they conquer his kingdom. A word Moses says here really sticks with me. "We doomed every town—men, women, and children—leaving no survivor." What a scary, freaky use of "doomed"! In modern English, "doomed" is usually a passive verb, as in: "I was doomed." See how powerful it is an active verb—a dreadful combination of menace, violence, and inevitability.

David's commentary about Numbers in the Christian Bible is very interesting too as is everything else he writes, to me anyway:

http://www.slate.com/id/2146473/

[Jennifer_SFBA]

I found two more contributory websites today. One talks about nuclear wars and flying craft on Earth in antiquity, present day alien wars in space, etc.

http://www.space-2001.net/html/nuclear.html#Titans.

The other is a free internet book that discusses Mars in ways that are not mainstream:

http://www.metatech.org/TheMarsRecords.pdf#search=%22ryolite%2038%20cleara nce%20NATO%22

[Jennifer_SFBA]

I read the first 200 pages of the book that is at the second web address at post #54 above. Much of the method used is Scientology that is about "going clear." That said, descriptions of interdimensional contact and events during contact are revealing.

[Jennifer_SFBA]

Modern science now says Homo Sapiens are the odd ones out, not Neanderthals in the evolutionary tree:

http://msnbc.msn.com/id/14737491/?GT1=8506



Humans strange, Neanderthals normal
Humans have twice as many divergent features as Neanderthals

Frank Franklin Ii / AP file

A reconstructed Neanderthal skeleton, right, and a modern version of a Homo sapiens skeleton are displayed at the Museaum of Natural History in New York. Research suggestsion that it is the human, not the Neanderthal, that strays in the human family tree.

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livescience

By Charles Q. Choi

Updated: 2:00 p.m. PT Sept 8, 2006

Neanderthals are often thought of as the stray branch in the human family tree, but research now suggests the modern human is likely the odd man out.

"What people tend to do is draw a line from our ancestors straight to ourselves, and any group that doesn't seem to fit on that line is divergent, distinct, unusual, strange," researcher Erik Trinkaus, an anthropologist at Washington University in St. Louis, told LiveScience. "But in terms of evolution of our family tree, the genus Homo, we're the outliers and the Neanderthals are more toward the core."

Humans are not at the inevitable end of a sequence, Trinkaus said. "It just happens that we happen to be alive today and Neanderthals are not."

Trinkaus spent decades examining fossil skeletons and over time realized that maybe researchers looked at Neanderthals the wrong way. Over the last two years, he systematically combed through fossils, comparing Neanderthal and modern human skull, jaw, tooth, arm, leg traits with those of the earliest members of the genus Homo in terms of their shape.

"I wanted to see to what extent Neanderthals are derived, that is distinct, from the ancestral form. I also wanted to see the extent to which modern humans are derived relative to the ancestral form," Trinkaus said.

Trinkaus focused on skeletal features that seemed most strongly linked to genetics, as opposed to any traits that might get influenced by lifestyle, environment or wear and tear.

When compared with our common ancestors, Trinkaus discovered modern humans have roughly twice as many uniquely distinct traits as Neanderthals. In other words, Neanderthals are more like the other members of our family tree than modern humans are.

"In the broader sweep of human evolution, the more unusual group is not Neanderthals, whom we tend to look at as strange, weird and unusual, but it's us, modern humans," Trinkaus said.

Modern humans, for example, are the only members of our family tree who lack brow ridges, Trinkaus said. "We are the only ones who have seriously shortened faces. We are the only ones with very reduced internal nasal cavities. We also have a number of