[Jennifer_SFBA]

I have been a member of "Black Box Voting" for several years. You too can join, and beyond that, participate in gathering crucial legal evidence. Please see the story about corrupt vote counting in Kentucky and how it is being legally contested by seven political candidates.


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Be part of the solution: Please sign up for the NATIONAL HAND COUNT REGISTRY: http://www.bbvforums.org/cgi-bin/forums/board-profile.cgi?action=register

Make November elections the biggest evidence gathering action ever. EVIDENCE = videotape, audiotape and photos. Come prepared. This time, focus on the COUNTING not just the voting.
http://www.bbvforums.org/forums/messages/1954/30499.html

Seven candidates, from two different political parties, have joined together to fight the Kentucky machine. One ordinary citizen has galvanized this action and stopped this very important case from being dismissed.

When Glenda Young called Black Box Voting she was a woman with a mission. "I need a lawyer," she said. "Can you help?"

Her plain spoken Southern drawl was laced with urgency and determination. "I believe that a great injustice has been done. When seven candidates join together from different parties to contest an election because they believe it was not honest, something's terribly wrong."

After questioning her, Kathleen Wynne of Black Box Voting was sufficiently concerned about procedural violations in the election that she took it upon herself to contact several attorneys on Glenda's behalf. The first attorney to understand the urgency and importance of this case was Paul Lehto, a formidable advocate for clean elections from Everett, Washington.

The candidates had already filed a case with local counsel, and a motion had been filed to dismiss. Lehto wasted no time catching a plane to Kentucky. After meeting with candidates, who provided hair-raising accounts of election irregularities, Lehto stepped in to fight the dismissal with the aid of local attorney Leroy Gilbert.

According to Lehto & Gilbert's legal brief:
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The Court must recall at all times that the voting here in question involves invisible electronic ballots which have not been inspected at any time by any party hereto, even the County Clerk has not counted them. Rather, the electronic ballots have been purported to be counted in secret by trade secret counting software owned by the vendors.

There is no reason at all or basis for confidence in the electronic counting until verified by the plaintiffs not only because the Clerk himself is a defendant-candidate here, but also because it is the nature of the computer to do precisely as it is told without reference to any laws, morals or ethics.
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Lehto explains: "Computers do what they're told -- without regard to laws, ethics or morals, and THAT's the problem. They can put computers into elections when they find a computer that fears going to jail."

A copy of the plaintiff's supplemental response to the motion to dismiss can be seen here:
http://www.bbvdocs.org/legal/kentucky-dismissal.pdf

Here is a copy of Lehto and Gilbert's offer of proof for the motion to dismiss:
http://www.bbvdocs.org/legal/lehto-dismissal-response.pdf

Copy of original petition:
http://www.bbvdocs.org/legal/kentucky-original.pdf

Glenda Young is a prime example of the backbone of America. One person CAN make a difference. When she called Black Box Voting, we realized that she was as serious as a heart attack. It was clear that there was no way she was going to back down, whether we helped her or not. This is the kind of tenacity it's going to take to reclaim our elections.

"I never believed this would happen in my own back yard," Young says. "It is up to us as the people of America to take a stand."

Lehto explains:

"For all the talking points of elections officials about pre-election testing, post-LAT testing, parallel testing, ITA certification, etc., the ONLY relevant question is WHAT WAS THE MACHINE TOLD TO DO ON ELECTION DAY ITSELF?

"We don't doubt that the machines CAN count correctly...We wonder what they were told to do on election day that causes either a malfunction (because computers are so complicated and literal) or causes a fraud (because computers will do ANYTHING)."

The evidenciary phase of this case has not been opened yet, but when candidates from two parties join together to file a joint lawsuit, red flags go up like the Fourth of July.

Seven candidates. Two lawyers. One ordinary citizen with firm resolve.

This is an example of what you can accomplish. Now, to expand on this: We cannot overstate the importance of getting involved and gathering real evidence. Evidence = photographs, audio recordings, video, and public records.

There are no small elections. Every election represents the integrity of the machinery and the procedures for the jurisdiction itself. If there is a problem with a local race, you can't have confidence in any race above it.

"We're counting the votes. Get over it."

To discuss this article, click here: http://www.bbvforums.org/forums/messages/1954/32958.html

[Jennifer_SFBA]

Common Cause has a petition below that people can sign to petition congress to renew the Voting Rights Acts.

Common Cause is petitioning Congress to renew and strengthen the Voting Rights Act. Join our efforts by adding your name to the growing list of Americans who want to protect this important safeguard against disenfranchisement.

Sign the petition today: http://www.commoncause.org/VRApetition

[MAGI]

Good on you Jennifer! :sunny:

Here's a GREAT happening too:

http://www.bradblog.com/?p=3065&print=1

- The BRAD BLOG - http://www.bradblog.com -

FIRST RFK JR. VOTING MACHINE WHISTLEBLOWER LAWSUIT NOW FILED IN FEDERAL COURT! NEW DETAILS!

Attorney Papantonio on Mike Malloy Show: 'We're gonna shut down some of these companies'!

Excoriates 'Indolent Democrats' and 'Lazy Media' for Not Taking Action; Lauds BRAD BLOG for Putting Issue on 'Radar Screen'…

Posted By Brad On 13th July 2006 @ 11:15 In Election Irregularities, RFK Jr., BRAD BLOG, Election Reform | 63 Comments

[1]The first of several federal whistleblower qui tam (fraud) suits have now been filed against one of America's major electronic voting machine companies, The BRAD BLOG [2] can now report.

Florida attorney Mike Papantonio who, along with Robert F. Kennedy, Jr. hosts Ring of Fire [3], weekends on Air America Radio [4], was a guest on Mike Malloy's radio program last night. [Complete audio is available at bottom of this article.] He discussed the upcoming whistleblower suits that he and Robert F. Kennedy, Jr. are filing against several of the voting machine companies. Pap was loaded for bear.

During the interview, he gave several new details on the federal fraud suits now being filed, which include several whistleblower plaintiffs whose stories were originally reported here at The BRAD BLOG [2], as mentioned last week in a quick item here [6], with some fresh details of our own. Pap reported last night that the "dream team of lawyers" they've assembled to take on these evil, irresponsible, anti-American companies includes a bunch of those who took on the tobacco companies in a successful quarter billion dollar suit — so they're not likely easily intimidated, we'd think.

Papantonio is a senior partner at Levin Papantonio Thomas Mitchell Echsner & Proctor, P.A., a Pensacola lawfirm. (website here [7]) RFK Jr. is also "of counsel" for this firm.

Speaking of the level of fraud to be revealed by the suits, which must be sealed by law for 60 days as the Attorney General decides if they will join the complaint, Papantonio told Malloy: "When you hear the details, when you hear the caliber of the fraud… you… it'll make Americans feel like they're living in a damned banana republic, a third world country. I have never heard such outrageous facts."

"And you know what?" he continued, "We've had our investigators look at it. We verified everything. And when you hear it, you're gonna say, 'Not in America.' …Bad news is: Yeah, it is in America."

The fraud suits, Papantonio said, are "a way to get at their money, and that's the only thing these people understand."

"At the end of the day, we're gonna shut down some of these companies," Papantonio said. "Some day these hacks are gonna be across the table from me, and they're gonna have to answer the questions that nobody else has been able to ask them."

Pap excoriated the DNC, "the indolent Democrats and the lazy media," for not participating in any of this, and decried the fact that he and RFK Jr. were essentially forced to take action on their own, given the Dems' failure to do anything.

He also spoke of the voting machine "sleepovers" about which we've been reporting here in detail of late. As well, he had several kind words for this website and several other election integrity groups. "Unless you had these organizations out there like Black Box Voting or BRAD BLOG, people like that, paying attention to this, this wouldn't even be on the radar screen," he said.

You can listen to the entire segment in full right here:

– Mike Papantonio on the Mike Malloy Show [8], 7/12/06 [MP3]

(Thanks to Ring of Fire producer Scott Millican for the heads-up and for the smartly edited, commercial-free audio file!)

UPDATE: AP finally notices [9] the spate of lawsuits being filed against these e-voting companies and their shitty wares across the country. AP is still way behind us here at The BRAD BLOG [2], of course, and haven't noticed the RFK Jr. suits, but hey, they don't have the access to the huge resources and manpower that we are able to leverage here, with our enormous staff and boundless funding, so we'll cut AP some slack. They're just a little blog or something, right? I'm sure they're doing their best. Thanks to Pam of The Democratic Daily [11] for the heads up!


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Article printed from The BRAD BLOG: http://www.bradblog.com

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[Jennifer_SFBA]

Thank you, MAJI, for that great contribution. We're working on ending that vote fraud and manipulation, but have a long way to go. I hope people will post anything else about what we can do and that is being done here too. We're going to have to get involved to make that stop, that's all there is to it. Contributions to organizations like "Black Box Voting" help alot to get that job done too. I donate money to that organization. It was one of the very first ones to begin working on the vote fraud and manipulation that was in the 2000 and 2004 elections and will be in all the other ones coming up if it's not stopped. "Black Box Voting" is a grassroots organization that has been very influential and is getting the job done, so I recommend it.

[MAGI]

Jennifer,:sunny:
looks like your state is leading the way towards Clean elections.

More good news from Brad Friedman from San Diego thanks to OP-ED:

http://www.bradblog.com/?p=3069

BLOGGED BY Brad ON 7/14/2006 11:49AM

"BREAKING: DNC'S VOTING RIGHTS INSTITUTE ISSUES STATEMENT CALLING FOR 'MANUAL COUNT' OF ALL BALLOTS IN BUSBY/BILBRAY ELECTION!

Denounces Adminstrative Failures, Irregularities, Security Breaches and Diebold Voting Machine 'Sleepovers' in Bellwether June 6th U.S. House Special Election!
Announcement Comes as DNC Chair Howard Dean Set to Address Activist, Election Integrity Convention in San Diego!

This morning's statement by Greg Moore, Director of the DNC's Voting Rights Institute, is posted at the National Democratic Party website, and also posted below in full…


DNC Voting Rights Institute on CA-50 Special Election

For several weeks since the June 6th Special Election in California’s 50th Congressional District there have been reports of election irregularities. The DNC Voting Rights Institute (“VRI”) has been monitoring the developments since Election Day and has raised a number of concerns regarding new and disturbing information.

First and foremost is the fact that any election where there are allegations of machine tampering, break downs in chain of custody, security breaches and other such irregularities must be taken seriously. There are several facts in this race that raise very deep concerns.

On the facts:

1. We know for a fact that San Diego County election officials have admitted that a number of the voting machines were taken home in violation of the federal security regulations and guidelines and that a number of the machines showed evidence of tampering (broken seals, which should also have immediately disqualified those machines from use according to state laws implemented in just the last several months in response to new severe vulnerabilities discovered Diebold's optical-scan and touch-screen voting systems.)

2. We know that under state and federal guidelines, any such breach of security seals or the new "secure storage" requirements for these machines and their memory cards should have immediately disqualified those machines from use in the election for the reason that they became effectively decertified for use upon such security and chain of custody violations.

3. We also know that both the Diebold optical-scan and touch-screen (DRE) machines have been proven to be vulnerable to tampering in test after test by industry experts, including a team of computer scientists and security experts convened by California's Secretary of State in response to recent revelations concerning the hack ability of Diebold voting systems.

4. We know that serious security issues and efforts by Diebold to obfuscate problems with their hardware and software led California’s former Democratic Secretary of State to decertify Diebold touch-screen systems in 2004,[/U] only to have the Republican Secretary who succeeded him reinstitute the machines over the objections of scores of computer scientists and experts
and hundreds of election integrity advocates.

The San Diego County election official responsible for administrating post-election manual vote counts has given three different arbitrary cost estimates for conducting the hand count. The quoted fees are as much as six times the costs estimates for similar hand counts in surrounding counties. The estimates portray the expense of a manual vote count to be cost prohibitive.

This is no longer about whether or not Busby or Bilbray won the election on June 6th. This is about the importance of verifying the facts related to election and voting machine irregularities in this race and the need to ensure an accurate count of all votes cast in this election so that the electorate may have confidence in the announced results in future elections.

The VRI will continue to monitor facts as they become available and will call for a swift and verifiable "manual count" of all 150,000 ballots cast in California’s 50th District’s "bellwether" June 6th special election in order to ensure the integrity of November 7th general elections and the overall integrity of our country’s voting systems in this still-untested age of computerized voting.

Greg Moore is director of the DNC's Voting Rights Institute."

comments..lots:

COMMENT #15 [Permalink]
... Dredd said on 7/14/2006 @ 4:48 pm PT...




Hey, it is never too late to have the first legal count … which would start the clock ticking … Haas does not make the rules where it really counts … in the judicial realm … the last bastion of innocent terror suspects at Gitmo (Hamdan v Rumsfeld) … and the last bastion for declaring that there is something fishy in the FEC EAC ITA "thinking" … and that something fishy is Shawn Southworth, Ken Blackwell, Katherine Harris, and Mikey Haas.


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COMMENT #16 [Permalink]
... NEOCONVICT said on 7/14/2006 @ 6:11 pm PT...




Is it my imagination or are we finally getting traction here? People finally starting to pay attention?

Bush & Cheney in Leavenworth–Halliburton forced to repay billions stolen–is it all a dream?

Quick, Dick! Better launch another "terrorist attack" on America!


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[Jennifer_SFBA]

I received the following from Black Box Voting day:



Submit your ideas here: http://www.bbvforums.org/forums/messages/1240/33010.html

Nancy Tobi, Democracy for New Hampshire -- adopted by permission by Black Box Voting:
"We're counting the vote. Get over it."

Voter Action:
"We will not be deterred."

Mark Crispin Miller, John Ervin:
"Get off the paper trail."

John Ervin:
"Fake reform. Fake news about fake reform. Fake voting. "

John Ervin:
"Paper and People Hardliner."


Weird news of the day:

As if the "sleepovers" in San Diego County weren't odd enough given the security defects exposed by Black Box Voting -- in Cuyahoga County Ohio (Cleveland area) the Diebold memory cards -- which are actually BALLOT BOXES -- were toted around in Yellow cabs with only one driver guarding piles of them at a time.

Strangely, the Yellow cab drivers understood instinctively what not a single person in the Cuyahoga County elections division seemed to "get": Yellow Cab Company wrote a letter to the elections division objecting to being stuck with inappropriate chain of custody and refusing to take the rap when dozens of ballot boxes were missing (12 are STILL missing).

Two members of the Cuyahoga County elections board have called for the resignation of Director of Elections Michael Vu after multiple other problems. Two disagreed, and secretary of state Kenneth Blackwell will decide the tie. More on this here: http://www.bbvforums.org/forums/messages/1954/32997.html

[Jennifer_SFBA]

Today I received from Black Box Voting the huge list below of things people can do to help protect Americans' right to vote and have their vote counted. If you qualify for "Module B," you are surely blessed, and by helping out, you are blessed even more. Thank you to all!!!:



Distribute to lists etc. as desired.

If you are worried about Election 2006, this message is for you. The Black Box Voting CITIZEN'S TOOL KIT contains 20 modules, listed below. Begin actively managing your elections by choosing one thing to do. This is your chance to suggest improvements to the tool kit.

Choose one action – any action. This is YOUR tool kit to help you and your group take action and monitor upcoming elections, so contribute input as desired.

A FRAME OF REFERENCE: You own your government, it's not the other way around.

When you own something, it's up to you to manage it. The Citizen's Tool Kit was created through combined expertise with many of our nation's most effective and experienced citizens, to help you learn the citizen management skills that work. If you depend on others to do this for you, you may just lose your country.

TELLING IT TO YOU STRAIGHT: WE'RE IN TROUBLE

Our electoral system is fundamentally broken. It's NOT going to be fixed by November. And we don't have a lot of time to make things right.

What happens when the owner of a business doesn't do anything to manage it? Pretty soon it doesn't exist. Let's not kid ourselves: The same thing can happen to our democratic republic.

We need to take this seriously. Your children and grandchildren will inherit the government you give to them. If you don't take action, who will?

Black Box Voting is not going to organize you, fix the government for you, or manage your efforts. We WILL provide you with the tools to have a real impact, either individually or by gathering together in small groups of 5 to a dozen people. We will provide you with mentoring if you need it. This is not a top-down initiative, it's roots-up, and it's your turn to reach for sunlight.

If you've been under the impression that the American citizenry can win back our elections by clicking "send" on an e-mail or writing letters to our representatives, or even by passing a law, think again. Those of us who have been in the trenches know: Laws are being ignored willy-nilly, public records are being withheld from citizens, and the voting machines we're using are junk.

If you aren't convinced, here is a presentation you can review -- it's pictures and captions, a quick read (but due to so many pictures, a slightly slow download, allow a few minutes even on high-speed connections):
http://www.blackboxvoting.org/toolkit-presentation.pdf
You can also use this presentation to explain the situation to others.

CITIZEN'S TOOL KIT TO TAKE BACK ELECTIONS - Choose what interests you most (links to each at bottom). Pick just one thing and take action.

MOBILIZATION MODULES
Module 1: Have a House Party
Module 2: Organize a Town Meeting
Module 3: Give a Speech to a Group

HARD CORE EVIDENCE MODULES
Module 4: Adopt Part of an Election: Check Out the System Testing
Module 5: Adopt Part of an Election: Check On Voter Registration Lists
Module 6: Adopt Part of an Election: Become a Poll Worker or Elections Judge
Module 7: Adopt Part of an Election: Monitor the Voting
Module 8: Adopt Part of an Election: Monitor the Counting
Module 9: Adopt Part of an Election: Check on the Chain of Custody
Module 10: Adopt Part of an Election: Audit for Accuracy
Module 11: Get Public Records and Freedom of Information Documents

CREATIVE & SPECIALTY MODULES
Module 12: Be the Media
Module 13: Adopt a Public Official
Module 14: Check Out the Money Trail: Who's Getting Paid?
Module 15: Accountability Check-up: Did the Election Follow Rules & Laws?
Module 16: Legal Actions

[Jennifer_SFBA]

Continued:



'PLAN B' MODULE
Module 17: Count the Votes Yourself

MODULES FOR CANDIDATES, CELEBRITIES, AND WEALTHY CITIZENS
Module 18: Actions for Candidates
Module 19: For Famous Voices (Action ideas for Celebrities)
Module 20: Actions for High Net Worth Individuals

Each module is being posted at Black Box Voting for your perusal and commentary. Links to each module are also provided below. You can see the modules as they go up, and read the comments of others, here:
http://www.bbvforums.org/forums/messages/1954/36341.html

You can contribute your input by going to the above link -- you must be signed in to post, so if this is your first time, just hit the "register" link to the left, fill in the boxes and you're ready to go!

You can also comment by e-mail. Just hit "reply" to this message and send your input along.

We'll take your ideas into consideration and update the Citizen's Tool Kit as needed. To help you customize each module for your own community or group, a page is also provided at the end of each module.

The entire Citizen's Tool Kit will be available module by module and as one complete document.

CITIZEN'S TOOL KIT TO TAKE BACK ELECTIONS
INTRO http://www.blackboxvoting.org/toolkit-intro.pdf

MOBILIZATION MODULES
Module 1: House Parties http://www.blackboxvoting.org/toolkit-house-party.pdf
Module 2: Town Meetings http://www.blackboxvoting.org/toolkit-town-meeting.pdf
Module 3: Speeches http://www.blackboxvoting.org/toolkit-speaking.pdf

Additional modules are being added throughout the day. If the links below don't work, wait a couple hours and try again as they are updated and added all day today.

HARD CORE EVIDENCE MODULES
Module 4: Adopt Part of an Election: Check Out the System Testing http://www.blackboxvoting.org/toolkit-testing.pdf
Module 5: Adopt Part of an Election: Check On Voter Registration Lists http://www.blackboxvoting.org/toolkit-voter-registration.pdf
Module 6: Adopt Part of an Election: Become a Poll Worker or Elections Judge http://www.blackboxvoting.org/toolkit-pollworker.pdf
Module 7: Adopt Part of an Election: Monitor the Voting http://www.blackboxvoting.org/toolkit-voting.pdf
Module 8: Adopt Part of an Election: Monitor the Counting http://www.blackboxvoting.org/toolkit-counting.pdf
Module 9: Adopt Part of an Election: Check on the Chain of Custody http://www.blackboxvoting.org/toolkit-chain-of-custody.pdf
Module 10: Adopt Part of an Election: Audit for Accuracy http://www.blackboxvoting.org/toolkit-audit.pdf
Module 11: Get Public Records and Freedom of Information Documents http://www.blackboxvoting.org/toolkit-public-records.pdf

CREATIVE & SPECIALTY MODULES
Module 12: Be the Media http://www.blackboxvoting.org/toolkit-media.pdf
Module 13: Adopt a Public Official http://www.blackboxvoting.org/toolkit-adopt-an-official.pdf
Module 14: Check Out the Money Trail: Who's Getting Paid? http://www.blackboxvoting.org/toolkit-money-trail.pdf
Module 15: Accountability Check-up: Did the Election Follow Rules & Laws? http://www.blackboxvoting.org/toolkit-accountability.pdf
Module 16: Legal Actions http://www.blackboxvoting.org/toolkit-legal.pdf

'PLAN B' MODULE
Module 17: Count the Votes Yourself http://www.blackboxvoting.org/toolkit-count-the-votes.pdf

MODULES FOR CANDIDATES, CELEBRITIES, AND WEALTHY CITIZENS
Module 18: Actions for Candidates http://www.blackboxvoting.org/toolkit-candidates.pdf
Module 19: For Famous Voices (Action ideas for Celebrities) http://www.blackboxvoting.org/toolkit-celebrities.pdf
Module 20: Actions for High Net Worth Individuals http://www.blackboxvoting.org/toolkit-affluent.pdf

Enjoy. If you have any questions or input, e-mail to crew@blackboxvoting.org or post them on the forums at http://www.blackboxvoting.org

* * * * *

Be part of the solution: Please sign up for the NATIONAL HAND COUNT REGISTRY: http://www.bbvforums.org/cgi-bin/forums/board-profile.cgi?action=register

Black Box Voting is a nonprofit, nonpartisan 501c(3) elections watchdog group supported entirely by citizen donations. We refuse funds from any vendor or vested interest.

To support Black Box Voting: click to http://www.blackboxvoting.org/donate.html or send to:
Black Box Voting
330 SW 43rd St Suite K
PMB 547
Renton WA 98055

[Jane of Arc]

TELLING IT TO YOU STRAIGHT: WE'RE IN TROUBLE

Our electoral system is fundamentally broken. It's NOT going to be fixed by November. And we don't have a lot of time to make things right.

What happens when the owner of a business doesn't do anything to manage it? Pretty soon it doesn't exist. Let's not kid ourselves: The same thing can happen to our democratic republic.

We need to take this seriously. Your children and grandchildren will inherit the government you give to them. If you don't take action, who will?


Great link Jennifer! You're like a breath of fresh air! I've been on this site for eons it seems ... :p ... talking about the broken elections. MAGI too. It's great to have you here. :thumbup:

Things are getting a little better in Tennessee. A group I've been involved with monitored the primaries for the first time this past Thursday. The general population still doesn't understand we can't trust the actual machine sometimes, we can't trust that the voting information won't be hacked somewhere along the long electronic line and we can't trust the corporations that own the rights and have fought in court to protect their exclusivity against the public's interest. Plus we need videotaping and verified ballots ... etc.... etc. But people ARE waking up.

[Jennifer_SFBA]

Hi, Jane of Arc and MAJI. Jane of Arc, that's wonderful you're working with a small group in Tennessee to get the vote right. Small committed groups like that are the most effective I think. I've noticed in life that if you want something done and done right, the best, and often the only way for that to happen is to do it yourself. There's a great sense of accomplishment in it too when it's finished. Let's keep working on getting the vote right untill the job is done. Caring, really caring, goes a whole ways and, by other people noticing that we do care and that we are working for the good of everyone, it acts as a great motivator for them to pitch in and help out too. Not all is lost so long as we're there letting our light shine bright for all to see. :sunny:

[Jane of Arc]

Please sign the following MoveOn petition to Pelosi for a re-vote in Florida after the electronic machines there lost thousands of votes and there's no record of course:

http://pol.moveon.org/floridaelection/?id=9601-5235289-r.5G3yVTN93ZTqDHa0huTw&t=1

[Michael DeM]

It's good that so many organizations are getting involved in pushing for a re-vote in the 13th District. To be honest, I didn't pay much attention to voting rights issues before this year's election season. But after this experience, I'm definitely going to be more active in this area. This has become a big deal for me. People go out to vote feeling like they're making their voices heard, and then crap like this happens. It's just not right.

[Jennifer_SFBA]

Hi, Maji. You wrote concerning my political activism related to voting: "... without http://www.fairvote.org/?page=1668 will NEVER get anywhere until http://www.fairvote.org/?page=1668 is established in every district in our country! ... I have mentioned this several times in the past, as you well know, and have NEVER read where you thought it worthy to fight for or work toward."

Well, that's incorrect, Maji, as you can clearly see, and, yes, I am still an activist member of Black Box Voting.